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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:46 am

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My bad I apologize
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:46 am

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In post 1461, Desperado wrote:no, aj said he wasn't informed he was blocked, just that his action didn't take
i wasn't informed i was blocked. i said exactly what i was told. that my action didn't happen. that i was roleblocked is speculation because i really can't see what else it could be.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:48 am

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In post 1468, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 1465, Desperado wrote:and what is the purpose of vax's role if shots are just refunded willy nilly?
If I were a one-shot vig

and I successfully got a shot off

and someone could reload my gun again

I would be the happiest man
what does this have to do with vax's role not making sense if being roleblocked doesn't cost you your shot?
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:49 am

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thank you Zito. :>
In post 1471, Vifam wrote:Thing is she just claimed to not know it was multiball when she obviously did cuz she got on Gamma for it earlier soooo
i forgot, this is why i have to be so careful as scum about not saying anything without checking the rules/my previous posts first. i forget things.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:49 am

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If you aren't blocked then your shot is used.

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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:50 am

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In post 1474, Gammagooey wrote:just pretend that i'm saying all the things zito is for the purposes of this conversation, getting to actually use something good twice is a pretty good benefit

and this game is semi-randomly generated already, let's not go into rolezzzzzzzzzzzzz when there's pretty clearly more important stuff to read chara with here
yes, i agree that a vig who makes a kill could use another shot

...but we're talking about players claiming they were roleblocked but were also refunded their shot which makes no goddamn sense at all
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:50 am

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well it
happened
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:51 am

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my action didn't go off. it wasn't confirmed i was roleblocked. but unless Brian was magically ascetic, or i was redirected onto an ascetic, i really don't see how it could be anything else.
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:51 am

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sigh

No, we have two players who have been informed that their action didn't work and got a refund. Their
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:52 am

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In post 1480, Desperado wrote:
In post 1474, Gammagooey wrote:just pretend that i'm saying all the things zito is for the purposes of this conversation, getting to actually use something good twice is a pretty good benefit

and this game is semi-randomly generated already, let's not go into rolezzzzzzzzzzzzz when there's pretty clearly more important stuff to read chara with here
yes, i agree that a vig who makes a kill could use another shot

...but we're talking about players claiming they were roleblocked but were also refunded their shot which makes no goddamn sense at all
aj claimed that he got a shot back too

with vax and Brian I'd put pretty good odds on their role working like 'if you target someone but they still have all the shots of their ability, yours is still used'.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:52 am

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and that is an incredibly poor assumption given natural action resolution and the nature of one-shot roles
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:52 am

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let's say chara is town and a scum roleblocker blocked his watch/track

in what universe does it make sense to give him that shot back???
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:53 am

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i wasn't even going to use my shot on night 1. it's one-shot and a good investigation, so i wanted to wait. but i knew i'd be wagoned, so i tried to use it in the hopes i'd get something done. that went about as spectacularly wrong as it could have, which is a little funny. it's too bad for town that someone else didn't replace into this slot.
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:53 am

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In post 1485, Desperado wrote:and that is an incredibly poor assumption given natural action resolution and the nature of one-shot roles
... it is?
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:53 am

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alternatively, chara is a scum tracker/watcher and a town JK blocked him

but he retains his track watch?

come on
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:54 am

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(again, plz check pronouns)
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:55 am

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In post 1486, Desperado wrote:let's say chara is town and a scum roleblocker blocked his watch/track

in what universe does it make sense to give him that shot back???
what is the point of this discussion? we've told you what happened, unless you have a third explanaton for why our actions wouldn't work, then i'm all ears.

while we're at it, i'm still not a he, and not a she, they/them or it/its, that's all. if i'd been more active, you would have heard this mantra throughout the game too, i assure you.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:55 am

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and if you're wondering what the point of all of this is, i don't think it's a reasonable assumption as a town one-shot PR to think that you were blocked AND that you still have your shot

so if you were informed that you still have your shot, you should be thinking of other reasons why your action didn't complete
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:55 am

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In post 1490, Papa Zito wrote:(again, plz check pronouns)
ya, i'm not going to refer to a person as "it"
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:56 am

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In post 1492, Desperado wrote:and if you're wondering what the point of all of this is, i don't think it's a reasonable assumption as a town one-shot PR to think that you were blocked AND that you still have your shot

so if you were informed that you still have your shot, you should be thinking of other reasons why your action didn't complete
Ok. Like what.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:56 am

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and i'm pretty sure i've been using "he" to refer to not chara all game and...it...hasnt mentioned anything so...?
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:57 am

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In post 1492, Desperado wrote:and if you're wondering what the point of all of this is, i don't think it's a reasonable assumption as a town one-shot PR to think that you were blocked AND that you still have your shot

so if you were informed that you still have your shot, you should be thinking of other reasons why your action didn't complete
what other reasons are there? you haven't provided
any
. what am i supposed to think? how is a jailkeeper roleblock different from a normal roleblock? what else happened?
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:57 am

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what don't you understand zito?

refunding a 1-shot ability that got roleblocked
makes no sense from a modding perspective and i have no idea why i'm having to even explain this
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:58 am

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like, what if the roleblock was 1-shot too? so the roleblocker loses their one shot for successfully blocking another role but that role gets their 1-shot refunded?

like seriously what
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:58 am

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In post 1495, Desperado wrote:and i'm pretty sure i've been using "he" to refer to not chara all game and...it...hasnt mentioned anything so...?
how many times do i have to say i've been inactive?
sometimes you just get sick of correcting people. just use they if it bothers you so much.
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