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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:26 pm

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In post 1165, Hawk wrote:Mmmm I think Momo has been playing pretty scummy. His play feels very forced and consistently just trying to snowball some kind of pressure. His counter pushes to pressure on himself is to OMGUS and or draw up misreps. Mail and myself (possible music) actually scumread him for reasons concerning his play but he doesn't engage with that instead presses us as policy lynching him. He misreps me saying that I'm following M&M when I was the first one to objectively scumread him. I don't think he's as new as he acts and it reflects in some of his statements meaning I think he recognizes what he's doing he's just choosing to ignore it for newbie shield.

M&M I think at least RC's head is very passionate and has displayed a very apt desire to be the center of attention and lead town. Confident to the point of being cocky I don't think even an experienced Hydra wants to draw that much attention as scum. I do find her stubbornness to refuse to give cases and only give one or two reasons at most with no follow up for her pushes to be annoying and kinda scummy so I can see how LQ and Uzi don't like it.

Mail on the other hand has been rather collected and calm. A nice compliment to RC but no less manipulative/cunning in their play.

Overall I think that slot is more likely town than scum but I don't think I could see reason to lynch there over Momo today. Not unless Momo's play really picks up and he stops playing so objectively terrible -_-;
I have things to say about this; quoting to remin myself later because I'm tired, but real quick I don't think we should even be considering momo today. most of your reasons sound ok on the surface but could also be explained by lack of experience, so, the reasonable doubt test fails there for me. the only thing that i think stands out from that argument is that it feels forced to you. that's kind of subjective and not something i can confirm beyond going "does he actually seemed forced to ME?" which he doesn't, really... just... new and bad. just saying i think a newbie lynch is not the best we could do today.

i like mm (it sounds like you're saying you think they are scum?) i suppose if things were directed at me it would be different. i see good thought processes there and good motivation which tells me they are doing something beyond waiting for the day to end.

more with this post tomorrow.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 1171, Antihero wrote:
oh... should i not be?

what did i do?
the oh no was out of game reasons.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 1146, LicketyQuickety wrote:I don't meta dive, but I don't think you are lying since easily confirmable through Anti.
can confirm. not buddying. we have an extensive history and a good track record w reading each other.

and for context i'm probably the only person etl knows here...? (correct me if i'm wrong) so it's less "buddying" and more like "hanging out with the one person you know at a party full of strangers"
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

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In post 1174, Creature wrote:Did momo ever claim to be an alt?
Yeah he said he was an alt pretending to be a noob to throw scum off.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

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I have a feeling one of Charloux and Kop will be replaced so I'm ready for this day to be over.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

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In post 1174, Creature wrote:Did momo ever claim to be an alt?
Yes, but that doesn't mean they even knew wheat that meant when they said it.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

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Just investigate Momo.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

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Fun fact: Even though this is supposed to be a 13-player setup, we're likely playing a game with 10 players.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

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In post 1125, momo wrote:@ETL.

I am biased on M and M.

Feel like Hawk is scum.

E and O is town.

Mixed feelings on SH.
In post 1157, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1146, LicketyQuickety wrote:You get that I have to poke you on that though right?
Yes. It was a gut reaction - our rapport in games has often come under fire as being scummy or buddying and I hate that, because it's completely irrelevant.
What is your read on me and what page are you on?

I DID.
My current read is pretty null. I'm looking for strong town reads mostly and go from there. That one post pinged but later responses to other people outweighed that feeling so - pretty null. I do feel though that there's something to be said for bringing a read out of the redzone compared to a straight null read due to nothing posts like other players I haven't even mentioned yet I'm sure because I haven't come across any posts from them yet.

I'm ~page 8/9. Fading fast so I think I'm done for tonight and will continue tomorrow. I have the day off so it will be nice to have some time to do ISOs and such.
In post 1158, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1153, momo wrote:So who here is ready for a Hawk Wagon. Think this is a common ground.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:30 pm

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In post 1162, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:take a better look at creature.
ok... so i hate to be that guy but i happen to know it's really easy to scumread creature when he's town bc he's... uh...

unconventional

I KNOW I KNOW it doesn't automatically make him town here but... j;lkfdsjkl;dsae;jflk;dsjflkdsalk;ejwli;fj;ldsfas
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:30 pm

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Who are we lynching?
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:31 pm

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M&M.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:31 pm

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In post 1165, Hawk wrote:Mmmm I think Momo has been playing pretty scummy. His play feels very forced and consistently just trying to snowball some kind of pressure. His counter pushes to pressure on himself is to OMGUS and or draw up misreps. Mail and myself (possible music) actually scumread him for reasons concerning his play but he doesn't engage with that instead presses us as policy lynching him. He misreps me saying that I'm following M&M when I was the first one to objectively scumread him. I don't think he's as new as he acts and it reflects in some of his statements meaning I think he recognizes what he's doing he's just choosing to ignore it for newbie shield.

M&M I think at least RC's head is very passionate and has displayed a very apt desire to be the center of attention and lead town. Confident to the point of being cocky I don't think even an experienced Hydra wants to draw that much attention as scum. I do find her stubbornness to refuse to give cases and only give one or two reasons at most with no follow up for her pushes to be annoying and kinda scummy so I can see how LQ and Uzi don't like it.

Mail on the other hand has been rather collected and calm. A nice compliment to RC but no less manipulative/cunning in their play.

Overall I think that slot is more likely town than scum but I don't think I could see reason to lynch there over Momo today. Not unless Momo's play really picks up and he stops playing so objectively terrible -_-;
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:31 pm

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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:31 pm

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In post 870, Hawk wrote:
In post 224, momo wrote:
This is an alt. Have played on other sites before, not on this one.
And for LQ I was just showing a gut feeling. Also, would a cunning person say they are cunning.
I was playing like a noob so that the scum would let their guard down.
Acknowledgment that he is experienced with Mafia. Acknowledgement that he is playing noobishly to make scum let their guard down. I think he says this somewhere else in his ISO too.

He knows what he's doing. it's scummy. epic mafia is a faster paced game like Town of Salem. He knows the way to win there is Chaos and mislynch for scum and as town it's reason and not giving into chaos. They don't care as much about blending in because they don't have time to blend in and lurkers are scum hence his hard press towards activity. All of this shouts to me that he is trying to look as town as fucking possible in his mind. So yeah universally meta irrelevant scum.

I should know I come from IRL and TOS background I know faster paced Mafia.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:32 pm

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In post 1184, Antihero wrote:unconventional
I'm root.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:32 pm

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In post 1034, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1029, Electra and Orestes wrote:
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Creature is so off that it hurts and his half-assed push on us really solidifies it for me!
What?
fixed. I don't know how that happened.

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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:32 pm

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Just in case people are literally retarded, Doc is on Anti tonight.
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:32 pm

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Antihero. Who do you think we should lynch.

And I agree with LUV. Just investigate me. I will come out Town.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:33 pm

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In post 1187, LicketyQuickety wrote:I like the content of this post, but I don't like the timing of it.
I asked him for it.
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:33 pm

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In post 1194, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1187, LicketyQuickety wrote:I like the content of this post, but I don't like the timing of it.
I asked him for it.
Oh, NVM :facepalm:
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:34 pm

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Next time on the next Lil Uzi Vert of The Walking Dead...
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:34 pm

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What are the chances we've got a lurking scumteam? Because I'm seeing a lot of activity from the same like 5 or 6 people and none from the others.
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:34 pm

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if momo were using him to be a potential newbie as a scum tactic, he wouldn't reveal he's an alt until after the game. it's something that supported my townread on him, and it just doesn't make sense for him to reveal he's an alt in that perspective if he were scum. i'd use all that manipulation i could. i can't see him as scum.

same applies to m and m. they're very aggressive which can be faked, but i just read it as genuine. my gut tells me it's transparent and it's townie, and i'm deciding to trust it.

to be honest we should fuck with lurkers today if anything. you all know there's at least one scum there
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:34 pm

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In post 1193, momo wrote:And I agree with LUV. Just investigate me. I will come out Town.
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