Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

[Prince Lyon]

if you weren't threatened you wouldn't be responding so strongly to my pressure

This is an

illogical

statement and I don't think KTS is an

illogical

person. He has made many similarly

illogical

statements in the process of calling me scum.
I am perfectly fine lynching someone who is going to say such

illogical

things because they're either scum or so

illogical

that they are of no use to town.

[Killthestory]

point out the irregularity

[Prince Lyon]

I don't have to point out something that everyone in this game, yourself included, already knows.

[Killthestory]

nope I'm stupid and bad at mafia explain it very simply

[gigabyteTroubadour]

lyon - read kts associatively

he's an anti-busser and will deliberately hard defend his partners so as to distance. he'll usually try to encourage his partners to do the same. this is to be anti-meta

like in 649, if you read for this, it becomes really obvious that this is strategy. yes, he pushes a wagon on his partner (MariaF) but it's with the intention to get her to towntell and call people on the wagon oppurtunistic. otherwise his team is tightly knit and everyone who's town is terrible unless they tr the whole team

here he feels... isolated? like he's just doing his thing which reads to me more as his play in 646 and i'm taking as a towntell

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also momo a readlist would help significantly

i feel like you're talking to both sides of the table

[Prince Lyon]

I mean he's simultaneously trying to pick a fight to bait me off Alban and calling them hard town so I wouldn't see them as isolated?

[Prince Lyon]

That depends on Alban flipping scum but I'm really not following that line of reasoning here and he meshes well as scum defending his scumpartners for pretty much all my scumreads.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i still think the town narrative of him scumreading you and tring alban makes just as much sense here...?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

*tr'ing alban as a result of his sr of you

[gigabyteTroubadour]

like i think if alban/kts were a thing he wouldnt start out with a sr

[Prince Lyon]

if you weren't threatened you wouldn't be responding so strongly to my pressure

If I was scum then you would be the last person in this game that I would feel threatened by.

So you feel threatened as town? Now that just doesn't make sense

finally saw me as a threat to your scum team huh

ive never pushed for a wagon with manipulation unless my scumreads not strong. You don't need to manipulate people if you can show them why the basis of your scumread is so strong. Manipulation is purely for scum as town has every reason to be transparent.

Sorry RC, but you scumclaimed

no they don't lol that's a fundamental mafia thing

let me just point out that lyon scumclaimed since town have no reason to manipulate people onto any wagons :^)

i don't care about your past games as

man it just feels right especially with Lyon getting so defensive and pushing my lynch. i can't shake that feeling, and i probably won't.

Also lol i had all these people saying 'oh he's obvtown' but later in the same day go 'he's scummy.' I've been playing the same, so uh yeah pick a side you scumfucks

Wheme, does it not sketch you out that KTS voted you to force your claim and then immediately unvoted and called you town after you claimed?

You were saying shit about how it looks like people are forcing wagons for claims but the person that most fits that description is KTS.

lol what in the absolute fuck is this

everyone was calling for reads and claims, and yeah, i was perfectly ready to lynch him without a claim. He claimed a tpower role that we can deal with at a later time in the same, but the behavior and his claim matched up.

why are you trying to manipulate people onto my wagon? doesn't it strike anyone else as weird that lyon would be trying to lynch me as soon as i vote them? hmm

Does none of these posts strike you as being insincere? Like do you believe that he believes that I never strongarm lynches as town?
Do you believe that he believes me voting him because he voted me is a scumclaim because I buckled under his pressure as scum?
The narrative of KTS as scum vote hopping to force claims and getting threatened because I scumread him and projecting that onto me makes far more sense to me than the narrative where KTS is town and just literally drowning in illogicalness.

[Prince Lyon]

like i think if alban/kts were a thing he wouldnt start out with a sr

Okay, then he can be scum independently with another half of the game. I really can't see KTS as town here.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i mean i agree it's a bad case and i completely disagree with it

but idk maybe the logic makes more sense in his head?? i dont really associate kts with logical cases and he's not a lock townread but i'm willing to give him botd here

can you bms on which scumreads he would work as partners with? just so i can assess the validity for myself

[gigabyteTroubadour]

btw i'm supposed to pull all-nighters today and tomorrow so if you see me online send me something to rile me up kthx

i'd declare v/la but deadline so i'm just going to try to check in during the day

[momo]

Okay... I think Alban/Prince/KTS scumteam.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hwhwtat

im vetoing that sorry

[Prince Lyon]

I don't understand why people started townreading momo for doing dumb things.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm not tring him

[Prince Lyon]

Oh yeah KTS stated randomly TRing him and the wagon died.

[Spade_Ace]

VOTE: Momo

I feel his reads are opportunistic.
- First he suspects bang and me
- Then he says bang, me and alban.
- Then when transcend and I said bang is town. He shifts to alban and me
- Then when KTS starts scumreading Lyon he too starts suspecting him.
- When Lyon suspects KTs, he votes for KTS

Haven't played with him b4, so don't know if this is his style. Started TRing Persivul towards the end. But his replacement feels scummy.

[momo]

GUYS I AM VT.

IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME INVESTIGATE ME TONIGHT!!!!

[schadd_]

the non-argument "i'm town" is in vogue lately, which is shite

[Prince Lyon]

Schadd, what are your thoughts on the last few pages?

[schadd_]

really bloated. i would lynch momo.