~laundry~ FIN

[Pine]

I'm a miller.

VOTE: Desperado

Surely, that makes you smile Andrius.

Vote: Desperado

Oh shit you're right.
PINE, CREATURE, GET OVER HERE

Sounds legit

VOTE: Desperado

Also,

Public Service Announcement: I have the Hated modifier. It takes one less vote to lynch me, except in MYLO or LYLO

Also,

addendum to partial claim: I have an unusual role, one I am familiar with, but I don't recall ever seeing actually used before.

Hated is a modifier to it. So if you see me claiming Doctor or Jailkeeper or even something obscure like Motion Detector that I've played with before, lynch me. It's *possible* I saw it in a game many years ago, but definitely nothing recent.

Also, I absolutely

love

my role, and will likely use it in a future modded setup.

Also, addendum to partial claim: I have an unusual role, one I am familiar with, but I don't recall ever seeing actually used before. Hated is a modifier to it. So if you see me claiming Doctor or Jailkeeper or even something obscure like Motion Detector that I've played with before, lynch me.

Lynch this with fire.

Nah. Par for the course as far as Pine's concerned.
Pine's town Sly's town man this game's shaping up to be great.

Now all we need is Toogeloo Boogeloo to get in here and we get to have a real party.

Actually, this kind of derp partial claiming is pretty weird for me. I just happen to have had weird roles in all three games we've played together (afaik).

Hold up. Before the flavor train leaves the station, my flavor is also an obstacle to getting the laundry done, and I'm Town. EP actually tells me to fuck myself in my role PM. So let's not rush to a conclusion here.

I am considering the utility of a mass flavorclaim here. I would like to invite discussion on the topic. I see pros and cons.

this setup sounds weird.

QFT.

I mean, my role is EP's sleep schedule, ffs.

I want to be the crotch vote

Is it weird that the dog avatar is where the pussy would be?

I would like it pointed out that McMenno is actually in the butthole position.

I, however, and the veiny, pulsating, rock-hard raging murdercock of the Creature wagon.

This isn't about my roleclaim, it's just something I wanted to relive. It was fun to make. My paint skills aren't awesome.

Before this wagon picks up steam, I feel compelled to remind people that I have the Hated modifier

I again remind everyone, I have the Hated modifier. Let's not have an accidental lolhammer

You've been alerted three times now. I expect every Townie to prosecute any "oops I meant to put him at L-1 and he died!"

Nah

don't you have some batshit role that's never even been done before?

the existence of the goon with all of the claims that have happened/been softed suggests to me that it was added later

unless you think the other 3 scum are complete gods

My role has been done before, I just haven't seen it used, or at least not in a long time. For the record, I quite like my role, and it's a doozy.

Reviewers lately are skewing towards Townsided.

I think that there are a healthy amount of scum PRs, and there is at least one negative utility Town role (Hated) to balance it. At least two, if Desperado's Miller claim is legit.

[Pine]

So why would scum kill you after claiming bomb again?

Because I claimed expired 2-shot after Zach was lynched.

that's not what he said he was doing...

but ummm, pine, I don't see you trying to bait any kill ever

Claiming all over the thread that I had an awesome role is what baiting the kill looks like.

and if you're a bomb you haven't been playing like one at all

Really? How's a bomb supposed to behave? They're so rare, I've never actually seen one in play, and couldn't find much advice beyond "try to bait the kill". It's not like I could start a MD thread on it.

[Pine]

What's pissing me off is that I've not been subtle about this, and at least one of you is being super derpTown right now.

That list was just from the first half of my ISO, btw. I'll skip ahead to the Zach lynch now.

[Pine]

Do you guys have any tips for me to improve my scum game because you saw through it so easily

Stay engaged. Don't try to lead Town (though accept the role if it is thrust upon you) but get in the mix and work with and against people. Your problem here, what tipped me off about you was that your reads were just so milquetoast. There wasn't anything special about them, anything risky or unpopular. Seek to form alliances, but avoid overt buddying until you get a 'mutual TR' vibe going. Remember how I was with Camn in Hunger Games? I slow played that relationship, going out on a limb early on to hard TR her when it wasn't popular and waited for her to come to me. Stick to your guns, take hard positions, but justify them. Also don't be afraid to read the room and find a justification to realign yourself.

Above all else, DO WHAT YOU'D DO AS TOWN. Someone does something scummy, call them on it. Doesn't matter if it's your buddy, doesn't matter if it's someone TRing you, whatever. Someone becomes super obvTown, call them on that too. This is part of what tripped you up here - I drove on three scum lynches. There was no FUCKING WAY I was scum, especially as I have a meta of being anti-bus. You might have weaseled out of getting lynched today, but doubling down on me screwed you. You should have gone for Drealmerz, he was the weak link here (<3 you bb Drealz I was wrong and your actions proved it...my meta on you is not as good as I thought).

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I was a 2-shot Bomb. I was trying to bait the kill and was really hoping to catch the fourth scum with my second use last night.

Actually, this was the only relevant post from the Zach lynch, I said it all in one.

[drealmerz7]

and what do you make of the "healthy amount of scum PRs" now?

to me it's less about baiting the kill and more about playing with reckless abandon, you should (in my opinion) play the center of attention and have everything that happens revolve around you so you're more likely to do and when you die and kill your death and the death of your kill become very very telling

you've not provided us with that at all and the game-solving you've done through the game has been non-complimentary to your inevitable death which youshould be seeking

it's also safer to play it by never even crumbing hinting evre suggesting that you're a bomb because you want your reads to be right, scum to want you dead because of that, and for them to not fear anything about your death-outcome

[Pine]

Yeah, we are not rehashing my early D1 setup spec, nor are we debating how you would have played the role. Kindly fuck off about those things. I made the decisions I did, and was instrumental in three scum lynches. So go fuck yourself. I *DO NOT DO THAT* as scum.

Lynching scum and softclaiming a strong power-role is ALL I should need to do to bait the kill. Plus, I was only 2-shot, so I had to be strategic about it. If I were full-shot, I'd have claimed full Doc and said 'come at me bro,' but I wasn't.

[drealmerz7]

ummm, you just asked me "Really? How's a bomb supposed to behave?"

I answered my opinion

[Pine]

It was sarcastic, dipshit. My point was that there is no accepted meta for it, so I was making it up as I went. So don't come at me like I didn't play it right, you weren't in my shoes.

Plus you're probably scum, so screw off double.

[drealmerz7]

rhetorical then...I didn't get that, I honestly thought you were asking my opinion

so, again, what do you make of the scum PRs now?

[Pine]

I think we've seen plenty. Encryptor, Rolecop, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a third. Why are you fixating on an early-D1 offhand setup spec comment?

[drealmerz7]

I'm not fixating on anything

I'm here now asking you what you think now about the role make-up, a perfectly good question and discussion at this point

plenty??? PLENTY? encryptor+rolecop = plenty?!?!?! you wouldn't be surprised to see a 3rd?!?!?! ummm yeah all of that reeeeks

[Pine]

No, what reeks is you trying to pin me to speculation I made early D1 seven days in. I was

guessing

, jackass.

This absolutely stinks of a question where you'd jump all over whatever answer I gave.

[drealmerz7]

I'm not trying to pin you to anything, you saying that I am when I'm clearly just trying to talk about things is scummy though, and you've been scummy all game, especially in regards to me

[drealmerz7]

AGAIN

I'm not talking about anything about D1, you are

I'm asking you NOW what you think NOW - I just fucking said this

[drealmerz7]

the 3 non-andriuses:

what do you make of andrius's assessment of desperado living until tomorrow because he's claimed miller? (when weak cop is dead)

[drealmerz7]

at least 9 views of the thread since my last post (:

I could vote pine today if others are interested and if someone makes a good case for someone else I'd likely be okay with any of you

fuckers

lovely people (I seriously hope this is okay, I'm just having fun~)

[Andrius]

I could vote pine today if others are interested and if someone makes a good case for someone else I'd likely be okay with any of you

fuckers

lovely people (I seriously hope this is okay, I'm just having fun~)

No its not ok.

[Andrius]

I get the feeling you're pretty much willing to lynch anyone at this point.
And yes, I have viewed this thread a bit but have been mobile and don't feel like spending even more time arguing with you.

[Desperado]

Because I claimed expired 2-shot after Zach was lynched.

ya i had a convo between you and andrius mixed up in my head

[Andrius]

This absolutely stinks of a question where you'd jump all over whatever answer I gave.

I feel like this is most of that he's been throwing out today.

[Desperado]

Yeah, we are not rehashing my early D1 setup spec, nor are we debating how you would have played the role. Kindly fuck off about those things. I made the decisions I did, and was instrumental in three scum lynches. So go fuck yourself. I *DO NOT DO THAT* as scum.

Lynching scum and softclaiming a strong power-role is ALL I should need to do to bait the kill. Plus, I was only 2-shot, so I had to be strategic about it. If I were full-shot, I'd have claimed full Doc and said 'come at me bro,' but I wasn't.

you and i and everyone else knows that "i never bus as scum" is meta that by definition must be subverted eventually

there's no reason to think this isn't that game

[Andrius]

Desp, who do you want more dead out of [dreal, Menno]?

[Desperado]

dreal

[Desperado]

but the thought of allowing menno to win this game playing the way he has literally makes me throw up in my mouth

[Andrius]

but the thought of allowing menno to win this game playing the way he has literally makes me throw up in my mouth

This sentiment is me for [dreal, Menno, Gerry] among others.