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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:45 pm

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considering Lowell is scumreading Frogger, it could be something that he's trying to say contributes to the scumread or sarcasm as Lowell says; I don't really have any way of knowing which
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:46 pm

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In post 675, borkjerfkin wrote:considering Lowell is scumreading Frogger, it could be something that he's trying to say contributes to the scumread or sarcasm as
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:49 pm

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think SBF is stlll probably town, but if SS is scum then she's even more likely town as any reason to set up this push on me goes away
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:53 pm

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In post 676, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 675, borkjerfkin wrote:considering Lowell is scumreading Frogger, it could be something that he's trying to say contributes to the scumread or sarcasm as
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I read it as sarcasm / joking, it seems like a really weird angle to push
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:53 pm

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whereas if SS flips town this becomes an excuse to push me because I defended her.
How sure did I ever really sound about SS town? Do I look like I'm writing her off? if so, where?

like the entire game has defended me all game; are they scum?

i do think it's weird that you focus on this particular interaction and not say, people who have gone and said "never lynch X"
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:54 pm

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In post 678, Eddie Cane wrote:I read it as sarcasm / joking, it seems like a really weird angle to push
it's possible and I hadn't considered that, fair enough
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:56 pm

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In post 679, borkjerfkin wrote:whereas if SS flips town this becomes an excuse to push me because I defended her.
How sure did I ever really sound about SS town? Do I look like I'm writing her off? if so, where?

like the entire game has defended me all game; are they scum?

i do think it's weird that you focus on this particular interaction and not say, people who have gone and said "never lynch X"
the more i think, this is off-putting but not offputting by that much for reasons that it would probably be antitown to explain.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:58 pm

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I don't think scum SBF pushes me here there is just very little value in it other than to elicit reactions like this from me like she can't possibly have known she was going to get
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:59 pm

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I guess this isn't really a push, but still

also the timing is wrong, this is something you say as scum when a town-SS lynch looks a lot more likely than it currently looks
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:03 pm

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In post 575, Fro99er wrote:
In post 544, borkjerfkin wrote:I liked bella early game (specifically her reasoning behind her initial thing between GL/me) although rereading something that pings me is
bella wrote: seee, tonally I liked Lowell for town, but his post with his vote for me in it didn't look like it should end with a vote for me. but
lowell wrote:VOTE: bella

Kara! Good to see you again. Sorry you flipped red this time.
is super tonally weird - kara is a reference to a recent survivor game, and i'd expect it to be an rvs reference, but then 'i flipped red'. ugh.
feels not genuine. ["I liked generally the tone of his posts. What I didn't like is this particular post where I didn't like his tone, the thing I just said I liked"] and it just reads instead to me like it's a combination of two dissonant parrots (the former of TTTT's and the latter of Frogger's ) instead of an organic read
I actually read that differently. She used the past tense "liked" Lowell for town. So originally she liked his tone, but then decided that post was tonally weird, so she (at the time of that post) currently no longer likes his tone. Hence the past tense.
In post 579, Fro99er wrote:
In post 563, borkjerfkin wrote:i just don't really think she's trying to find scum
see this is the biggest issue i'm having with bella.
and there are some more-than-skin-deep inconsistencies that aren't temporal in nature
can you explain these? If its the tonal stuff i'm going to disagree.

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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:05 pm

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if someone is seeing town-bella notes that i am missing now is the time to really like hash this out because inertia is favoring that lynch right now even w/ SBF's hopoff

there is no claim to be had so it's not like no one's gonna deadine hammer

rereading SS/SBF probably tonight/tomorrow but i wouldn't be surprised if I end up in a wishy-washy throw up my hands state as seems to be par for this game (which I don't think is a failing on anyone's part but mine; I don't think people are trying hard to be opaque by and large I'm just not hitting any huge scum notes on anyone and that makes me dive back into reads i'd previously shelved)
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:05 pm

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are p-edits just not happening anymore? like half the time i don't get the interrupt
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:11 pm

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top one -- i didn't read as "liked and then didn't", considering that the post she refers to is his second post, which means it's pretty likely it's not the last thing she read

bottom one -- really just a summary of the fact that I think she's giving conflicting thoughts in the same post like what appears to be contradictory parroting and the fact that she's not asking you about things that you two disagree on but instead about things that you pretty much agree on which contextually makes no sense; it wasn't meant to be a new point
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:16 pm

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Alright yeah good call on it being the second post re: tone

I missed that
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:19 pm

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also don't think bella makes a good SS partner for what that's worth; bella referred to SS as obvtown so early in the game
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:22 pm

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I guess I can go with Bella as a deadline vote.

I don't feel great about it but I don't feel awful about it. Don't really like lynching a VLA player that can't defend herself.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:24 pm

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I don't feel great about any lynch atm or I'd not be here

also I like SBF's point about SS read progression on GL that seems like a really unintuitive reason to townread someone
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:25 pm

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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:26 pm

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blah i should probably go look at that newbie they played together

fuck meta though i'd probably have won Heroes of the Storm upick if not for meta
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:28 pm

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if I were the Metaing sort I would point out that GL looks very different here than in that game
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:33 pm

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blah i am legit wondering if i whiffed it on SS; I don't see the angle on GL
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:36 pm

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@bork - why do you disagree with me on that read? Its weak but I felt that GL was playing much less aggressive than that game and more focused on actual arguments which is why I had a TR there.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:38 pm

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I don't, I think he's town, just trying to figure out where you're coming from right then and there; also trying to find where he really got up in your grill in the newbie game
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:40 pm

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eh i guess there is a lot of soft pressure on you from him that game, he just never voted you

fucking hell i dunno
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:41 pm

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If I recall correctly it was mainly d3 in that game. If I have time I'll look back through it and find some quotes.

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