Micro 687: Vanilluxe Mafia - Mafia Victory!!!

[borkjerfkin]

obviously if SS is scum then the latter quote becomes irrelevant

[Fro99er]

I think the pedits don't work either. My 749 was in reference to the post you just colored.

[Fro99er]

I really want SS's wallpost now

[borkjerfkin]

and yeah there is incongruity in SBF saying "I think Bella is a ML" and Bella being the 3rd lowest person on her readlist

[borkjerfkin]

unless she's super sure of all her townreads like she just lambasted me for being sure enough to defend 1 of

[Fro99er]

My vote is on SBF pending SS's wallpost. But I have this back of the mind feeling SS is delaying this wallpost.

He keeps coming back in and saying he'll make it instead of just making it.

[borkjerfkin]

she's on MST so her assignment is due in 45 min and I think she finished early and went to bed; i don't think it's gonna happen before tomm

[Fro99er]

whoops she

[Sobolev Space]

Bork, I actually go to school in Chicago not Denver so it was due ~15 min ago. I just finished getting ready for bed but I can stay up a bit and make the post. I realize that time is definitely a factor here.

Frogger, I asked this earlier, but do you want me to elaborate on any of the reasons I've already mentioned for SRing SBF? I feel like I covered my main points already so was planning on just going over her case on me but it sounds like you want something more.

[borkjerfkin]

here is (what little there is of it) SS's scum game (copy paste)

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=69804&user_select[]=28862

presented without commentary

[borkjerfkin]

Bork, I actually go to school in Chicago not Denver so it was due ~15 min ago. I just finished getting ready for bed but I can stay up a bit and make the post. I realize that time is definitely a factor here.

oh, my bad. howdy neighbor

[SweetBlueFlowers]

@Frog - I am not going to TR a slot for one post. Her content is not scummy, nor is it overtly Townie. I believe it is a mislynch due to wagon construction, reactions, and timing. This has nothing to do with my read on her content. I have already answered that I believe GL is scum. He gave intent to hammer. I have already told you that Bellaphant is a status quo lynch and therein lies the scum motivation to lock it in.

@bork - This is how a read evolves: you add pieces of information together and they gradually form a full picture. One piece of that in my read on your slot is your interactions with Space. Once the variable {Space} is defined, it affects my read on your slot. I am currently reading your defense of Space as Town naivety, because I do not know the alignment of Space. If the alignment of Space were known to me as Town, then I would reconsider reading your defense of Space as scum WK. Combined with the other pieces of information that I have on your slot, this would probably result in a scumlean. Given that if Space were Town GL would by my only SR and every other slot would be null or above, I would consider that scum was in {bork, GL}. Therefore, operating according to knowledge I have right now, I believe there is at least 1 scum in {bork, Space}. Does that make sense?

You would assume that either she is not Town or that she is intentionally playing in a drastically different manner for reasons that by now she would likely have explained if that were actually the case, having witnessed the strength of my meta argument against her. (Alternatively, if my meta argument against her were not strong, I would expect her to have corrected or at least argued against me, which she has not.)

What differences am I ignoring? Powertown is what it sounds like, powerful Town play, strong, no-nonsense, wrecking scum. Please don't selectively read my posts. I did not say that him not being powertown = him being scum. Here are a few samples for you: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66850&user_select[]=26515 viewtopic.php?f=84&t=67900&user_select[]=26515 viewtopic.php?f=84&t=68625&user_select[]=26515

This Town is fucking depressingly bad. Going back to prodges.

[Sobolev Space]

Frogger's not getting back to me so I guess I'll just write up everything. Wall incoming.

[Fro99er]

YES I AM GETTING BCAK TO YOU JESUS GIVE ME THREE MINUTES

[borkjerfkin]

I did not say that him not being powertown = him being scum

When he isn't powertown, he is usually scum.

come the fuck on

[Fro99er]

Heading to bed so will have to make my longer post tomorrow. I've already covered the basic reasons why I'm SRing SBF (although if anyone wants me to elaborate I will) so I was mainly just planning on going point by point through her case on me.

I thought your wall was elaboration on your points.

Or is your elaboration on your SBF scumread different from your wall?

[Sobolev Space]

Haha sorry about that Frogger didn't mean to be pushy just trying to get to bed early. Okay I'm covering everything.

[Fro99er]

I believe it is a mislynch due to wagon construction, reactions, and timing.

yet you have yet to tell me who is the scum on her wagon

[Fro99er]

I have already answered that I believe GL is scum. He gave intent to hammer.

wait, so the scum on her wagon is someone not on her wagon and so the timing of her wagon is scum motivated by someone not on her wagon?

[Fro99er]

timing = how the fuck is GL scum on Bella wagon
construction = how the fuck is GL scum on Bella wagon

reaction is the only reason you can scumread GL for the bella wagon.

[Fro99er]

I did not say that him not being powertown = him being scum

When he isn't powertown, he is usually scum.

come the fuck on

lol

[SweetBlueFlowers]

I did not say that him not being powertown = him being scum

When he isn't powertown, he is

usually

scum.

come the fuck on

I'm not going to fucking explain to you guys how to play mafia.

[borkjerfkin]

I am currently reading your defense of Space as Town naivety, because I do not know the alignment of Space. If the alignment of Space were known to me as Town, then I would reconsider reading your defense of Space as scum WK.

Also this is illogical; if I am town I have no idea what SS is and therefore why would you devalue the town defending town possibility and not the town defending scum one

[Fro99er]

I'm not going to fucking explain to you guys how to play mafia.

I think I know who you are

[Aristophanes]

Methinks i can steal me a pagetop!