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[Barleycorn]

UNVOTE:

no issue with key.

i said it was either antagonistic or self-conscious. one or the other. i don't personally like the antagonism but i don't think it's scummy.

sheep - on hold until magna responds to 43

[-Grey-]

grey 21 is a reach.

Only in the sense that it reaches across the internet and slaps you across the forehead with its mushroom stamp of scumhunting goodness.

[Cooperative Sheep]

I'd also support a wagon on Barley at this stage. His kind of instant dropping of his attack on Key reads extremely limp wristed to me - if he was attacking for reactions, he should have kept going, the same if he believed what he said. That he dropped it after being asked about it by Key makes it look like he wasn't pressuring nor believing what he said - which makes it read as faked scumhunting to me.

[Barleycorn]

VOTE: sheep

[Barleycorn]

read that interaction again and come back with a different answer.

[Cooperative Sheep]

I see you still dropping it (or just listing something in your initial explanation of your issue with him that you don't now claim to find scummy) which still leaves me not liking your reaction.
What am I missing?

[Barleycorn]

i said i didn't understand the post. it was either antagonistic or self-conscious, by two different interpretations.

key said it was antagonistic.

i then understood the post, and it didn't feel scummy.

much ado about nothing.

[Barleycorn]

now are you scumhunting or looking for something to jump on?

[Cooperative Sheep]

now are you scumhunting or looking for something to jump on?

At this stage, they're one and the same in my opinion - do you disagree?
If not, what's up with your vote?
If so, why ask?

[Elena Fisher]

I can't be the only one confused on this interaction between barley and sheep right?

[Barleycorn]

^ sheep's fault.

and no i don't agree lol. scumhunting shouldn't be something scum can actually replicate. i don't really want to argue about theory though.

you effectively answered my question with "i'm just looking for something to jump on" but you didn't say that outright. shifty.

[-Grey-]

I'd lynch barley if they were gladiated.

[Barleycorn]

maybe i should have said sorting? it doesn't feel like you're actually trying to sort my slot.

pedit: gladiated?

[Cooperative Sheep]

How is it confusing?
Functionally he's complaining that I'm attacking something that isn't quite what I said I perceived it as, and voted me over it even though I was quite clear in how I perceived it (wich makes it identical to his poke at Key). I'm trying to force him to explain enough of his logic so I can assess if he's hypocritical scum, or town who doesn't grok his own hypocrisy. He, meanwhile, is vaguely attacking me, I think just to attack me - but his core attack is that I'm attacking him over not much.

[Elena Fisher]

Let me see if I get this right.

grey 21 is a reach.

magna 23 is poor reasoning. why is it invalid to be wary of a wagon on x player when x player tends to react poorly to wagons as town? and to 31, where does matt imply that any reaction to a key wagon from key will be nai?

tf seems like tf.

elena 17 feels off. points to magna for pointing that out.

matt 27 feels townish.

tf 37

key 38

VOTE: key

At this post you did not scumread key? What was the vote for then.

more words doesn't mean more coherent

i don't really understand key's 38 but i don't get good vibes from it either way. either it's antagonistic or it's self-conscious

The tone here feels like

UNVOTE:

no issue with key.

i said it was either antagonistic or self-conscious. one or the other. i don't personally like the antagonism but i don't think it's scummy.

sheep - on hold until magna responds to 43

a 180 flip from here I feel like you were taking me one way then zapped me another talk me through it

[Cooperative Sheep]

^ sheep's fault.

and no i don't agree lol. scumhunting shouldn't be something scum can actually replicate. i don't really want to argue about theory though.

you effectively answered my question with "i'm just looking for something to jump on" but you didn't say that outright. shifty.

I explicitly stated it by saying 'they're the same thing'.
So if you think I'm scummy for jumping on stuffand looking for stuff to jump on you already openly have me saying that's what I'm doing - it's shifty you're trying to act like I avoided saying it.

Unvote: Magna
Vote: Barleycorn

Now I'm covering up for OMGUSing you too, you should add that to your case.

[Barleycorn]

words words words from sheep

i wanted to sus out what 38 meant. couldn't tell if it was key buddying or key saying tf's play is terrible. at the point of 50 i learned it was the latter and didn't find that scummy.

[Barleycorn]

i guess you're right, it's not shifty. could be that i don't like your playstyle.

[Barleycorn]

sheep feels town actually.

UNVOTE:

[Cooperative Sheep]

i guess you're right, it's not shifty. could be that i don't like your playstyle.

Okay, so you are voting me why again?
Am I or am I not the scummiest player in your opinion?

I still feel like you kind of fold from your opinions the instant you're challenged.

[Elena Fisher]

What was the point of the vote part though It's slightly hard to swallow that you're saying you didn't sr key at that point and the vote was there just as a vote.

[Barleycorn]

I still feel like you kind of fold from your opinions the instant you're challenged.

objectively accurate assessment

[Barleycorn]

What was the point of the vote part though It's slightly hard to swallow that you're saying you didn't sr key at that point and the vote was there just as a vote.

if key was buddying in 38 i scumread him

obviously he wouldn't say "i was buddying!" if he's scum, but i believe he meant it to say that tf's play is bad.

what really happened is i made the vote thinking he was buddying. then realized after that he might have been being antagonistic. he clarified.

[Elena Fisher]

Ah okay understood. How do you feel about Magna?

[-Grey-]

pedit: gladiated?

If the moderator declared only you or sheep could be voted, I'd vote you.