The fact that I didn't die last night confirms GL as scum. If GL were Town the scumteam would have NKed me to incriminate GL for any easy mislynch. I had the 2nd scum PoE'd down to 4T and Space and GL's interactions with Space overall have been too messy to be partner interactions, so this is pretty clear cut.
In post 951, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:The fact that I didn't die last night confirms GL as scum. If GL were Town the scumteam would have NKed me to incriminate GL for any easy mislynch.
Assuming that you're town, I don't think this follows at all. When I'm scum I almost always ignore and kill outside of TvTs, the constant arguing/tunneling is great for coasting during the day, and killing one of the townies is often taking away a distraction/potential mislynch. Plus bork was the obvious NK last night, he was never getting lynched this game.
Also, at the idea that I'm an easy mislynch. I think in all of my games here I can remember 2, maybe 3 times when I've been mislynched.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 952, TTTT wrote:@SBF
from your POV...
GL is confscum
I'm POE'd scum based on scum!GL
...and you vote me?
bad bad bad
In this setup I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be - if you really do believe you have two scum candidates but you're more sure in one than the other, it could make sense to lynch the more confident read on D3, no?
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 936, GuiltyLion wrote:Also, if you're back to scumreading me, then I want to know what the "towntell" you claimed to see in 569 was and why you decided it no longer applies.
also SBF if you are choosing to ignore this, then I'd like you to explicitly state that you are ignoring it.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 954, GuiltyLion wrote:Also, at the idea that I'm an easy mislynch. I think in all of my games here I can remember 2, maybe 3 times when I've been mislynched.
yah fun fact just crunched the numbers and it's only happened 3 times
Word Sneak 2 - got death tunneled by scum!RC How to Get Away with Murder - shouldn't have happened since I was tracker, but got turbolynched within 1 RL day on D2 Grey Flag - was voting scum in LYLO, got hammered by scum off of an awful vote by RachMarie
point is, town!GL is not easy to mislynch and I don't plan on that happening in this game either, and if you were as familiar with my meta as you pretend to be then you should know this too.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
NK doesn't really prove anything. Bork was the obvious NK no matter who the scumteam is. When GL, Frogger, and I are scumreading SBF and TTTT has expressed willingness to lynch her d1 there's no reason to NK her.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
I don't believe that fro99er's failed to sort Bella one way or another.
How is fro99er best friends with bella with lots of game experience together and yet near deadline says...
In post 690, Fro99er wrote:I guess I can go with Bella as a deadline vote.
I don't feel great about it but I don't feel awful about it. Don't really like lynching a VLA player that can't defend herself.
There is literally no effort ever in the second half of the day to lynch or defend Bella's slot.
How do can you know a player so well and spend so much of the early game interacting with them
and end up with that hard a null read?
I was hoping to see fro99er respond first before jumping in
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 917, Eddie Cane wrote:if bella flips town I still think Lowell is solid town. if bella flips town that means frogger is again in my scumpool (since he's lock town with a bella scum flip in my eyes). Lowell voting frogger at a time everyone was ignoring me looks good for him, and he created the wagon even if it didn't go anywhere. he left only after it was clearly going nowhere to go onto another sr. Bella made sense as a vote for him based on his progression.
Eddie can you go into more depth as to why you are townreading Lowell? I don't really understand why this is indicative of town alignment, and most of your ISO is pretty null on Lowell except for a few points yesterday where you called him lock town. I only skimmed it just now but I'm not really grokking your read there
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 967, GuiltyLion wrote:I was hoping to see fro99er respond first before jumping in
I'm here. Give me a few
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 559, Eddie Cane wrote:no post has struck me as scummy. I haven't thought "this seems off, let me review bella". I don't keep notes or anyrhing like that, realllllly not my style.
That's strangely where I am with bella.
What seemed off was meta-based rather than actual scum motivation. I don't mind the pressure on her. It's warranted and hopefully helps us get a better read on her. Nothing she's really done has pushed the game significantly forward or showed a scum-hunting desire. Not even in her sarcastic manner that I love. Strictly conent-based, she's null for me.
Meta-based I haven't seen happy go lucky bella like from last game. But I haven't seen tryhard scum!bella either. I've just seen disinterested bella, which happens from time to time with her as town when she's getting scumread.
Also null for me, and that makes me both uneasy and bummed out at the same time. When we vibe together, we win. Sometimes in 9 pages.
@T4
This is why Bella was bull for me.
If you think I am supposed to have a strong read on Bella when she was missing more than half the day and I didn't have a real chance to interact with her then you're making shit up.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 942, Eddie Cane wrote:I thought there was a decent chance I'd get nkd and Sobolev had thrown shade at him.
Oh come on. You were never gonna get NK'd with our 1v1. Either you're town and scum want to let our 1v1 fester, Orr you're scum. Either way you were never getting killed.
This is scum talk and anyone that doesn't see that is blind.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
The fact that I didn't die last night confirms GL as scum. If GL were Town the scumteam would have NKed me to incriminate GL for any easy mislynch. I had the 2nd scum PoE'd down to 4T and Space and GL's interactions with Space overall have been too messy to be partner interactions, so this is pretty clear cut.
I'm not sure 4T was scum on the Bella wagon. I think if anyone it was Lowell.
Look at the progression he took with Bella, and how he jump started that wagon after 4T's vote on bella sat there a while.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
at the idea that I'm an easy mislynch. I think in all of my games here I can remember 2, maybe 3 times when I've been mislynched.
