[Micro 681] Spooky Scary Skeletons Mafia GAME OVER

[Keyser Söze]

Not every post of mine has to be unlocking the secrets of the game via deep game solving.
I like to state the status of my reads and the activity.
BUT THAT IS NULL ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE.
I do not gain any town cred or scum points for it.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah I think I just overthink posts like that.

[Infinity 324]

Ok the push on joey to explain why he scumreads keyser looks very town to me. Scum being wagoned would want to let the read be (if it wasn't threatening) or fight back against it in some way. Having joey try to convince the rest of the town why keyser is scum shows a level of confidence very unusual for scum. It's also a very towny mindset; it shows that he's genuinely trying to get joey to show his true colors as opposed to just trying to put out a read on him or question him just to question him. Even if keyser was confident scum who wanted to try to appear more town, it would've been so easy to conclude that joey's read lacked "oomph" (which it did, to some extent) and continue trying to mislynch him for that. Instead, keyser wants to find out whether there's real meat behind the read. I'm comfortable calling keyser town now.

[Infinity 324]

but the "air" about him has been an increasingly growing confidence of "ohyes! I'm such a helpful towny look at me go!"

I make some LAMIST posts, but, he's just laying 'em out there like he's putting down shingles

Talk to me about this.

[Infinity 324]

I'm actually gonna support the Keyser lynch since I have no reason to Town Read him + the cases being presented are actually convincing to lynch Keyser.

If yall planning to lynch me D2 then I'll claim who I am tomorrow.

PEdit: Why though?

Ewww

[Zulfy]

Asked you a question, Keyser

[Flubbernugget]

My offer for you guys to appeal to be neighgborized is still on the table

What's so good about a neighbourhood?
I wouldn't have anything to say in it...
No ones town confirmed in there...

Some people like them

[Aeronaut]

@Mod: I would like to replace myself. The Caesar gimmick is fun, but really hard to do with this small and slow playerbase.

Got it!

- VoteCount 2.5 -

With 16 votes in play, it's 9 to lynch!

[L-7]

drealmerz7 -

Flubbernugget, <Vote>

[L-9]

Fire Assassin -

[L-5]

keyenpeydee -

Infinity, <Vote>, drealmerz7

[L-6]

Infinity -

<α>, Fire Assassin, keyenpeydee,

[L-9]

Flubbernugget -

[L-9]

Keyser Söze -

[L-9]

Zulfy -

[L-9]

Caesar Wills It -

Not Voting

-

Keyser Söze, Zulfy, Caesar Wills It, <Vote>, <Vote>, <Vote>, <Vote>, <Vote>

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-03-10 21:00:00)

[Flubbernugget]

Fire

Vote Dreal with me

[Infinity 324]

Why?

[Keyser Söze]

It was D1 with no flip... they're weren't confirmed TvT so I had to maintain a balanced perspective (I wasn't going to hard defend them early D1).

is this a singular them
Defend who? Drealm or grey? Or both? And defend them from what?

If I'm reading infinity correctly he's saying you did nothing to help end the spat between the two, so I don't see where you brought the concept of defense into the mix.

Btw infinity why go after keyser specifically when everyone (correct me if I'm wrong, was awol at the time) pretty much had a hands off approach to grey vs drealm?

- Dreal vs Grey
- from themselves and others (sometimes tunnelling players is informative). I believe some players started s/reading them for their actions (which I thought were natural reactions).
- if I s/read one of them I would have jumped in and turned it into an alignment indicative issue (i.e "Dreal is saying we should keep our hidden votes hidden, SCUM!").
- I've been here from the beginning (I tried to share with them each other's position, but they were caught up in meltdown mode. If they were two confirmed townies I would have put in TREMENDOUS effort to 'stop their spat'.)

[drealmerz7]

but the "air" about him has been an increasingly growing confidence of "ohyes! I'm such a helpful towny look at me go!"

I make some LAMIST posts, but, he's just laying 'em out there like he's putting down shingles

Talk to me about this.

I don't know what more to say that I haven't said but I'll go at it again.

keyser is still my #1 scumread because I feel like most of his posts are a lot of posturing. I get a strong strong sense/feeling that he is fake-forcing towniness. Like I've said, each post he makes practically screams of it to me at this point and I can't even barely engage him because he's all "BUT NO IT CAN'T BE, LAMIST!"

[keyenpeydee]

but the "air" about him has been an increasingly growing confidence of "ohyes! I'm such a helpful towny look at me go!"

I make some LAMIST posts, but, he's just laying 'em out there like he's putting down shingles

Talk to me about this.

I don't know what more to say that I haven't said but I'll go at it again.

keyser is still my #1 scumread because I feel like most of his posts are a lot of posturing. I get a strong strong sense/feeling that he is fake-forcing towniness. Like I've said, each post he makes practically screams of it to me at this point and I can't even barely engage him because he's all "BUT NO IT CAN'T BE, LAMIST!"

This post feels accurate

[Keyser Söze]

"fake-forcing towniness"?
Nope, I'm just just town
Search your feelings Dreal, you know it to be true!

[Keyser Söze]

I'm actually gonna support the Keyser lynch since I have no reason to Town Read him + the cases being presented are actually convincing to lynch Keyser.

Ewww

It's a f**king horrendous opportunistic/hedging post, but I think it comes from town-Keyen, not bad-scum Keyen (who'd later call me a 'gut town read')

Gut says Key is town.
Need to trust my gut.

However, if there's nothing I could do, I'll vote for Keyser.

...who'd still vote for me
So I was willing to let the contradictions and opportunism slide.
I personally would never vote/lynch a gut town read.

[drealmerz7]

...who'd still vote for me
So I was willing to let the contradictions and opportunism slide.
I personally would never vote/lynch a gut town read.

yep, totally, and another indication/reason why I think you could both just be scum-buddies

[Keyser Söze]

@dreal, look at it from my perspective -
do you think scum-keyen would have been a bit more strategic in the way he wanted to push through my miss-lynch on D1?
He'd been speed-lynched on D2.



I've also ruled you out for being scum, as I don't see you making the bad-scum play of hard-pushing two misslynches back-to-back. I'd only start to suspect you if Keyen flipped scum, as you keep trying to pin him as a scum-teammate to me and Grey.

IMO, your scum-dar has been off all game.

[drealmerz7]

tis possible, it happens, if that is what is happening I'll say sllowwwww pace didn't help

we will see eventually

[Keyser Söze]

I'm starting to like zulfy for scum

Can you please explain/explore this with me.

Can everyone claim where their D1 vote was:

[L+1] -Grey- - Joey_, Caesar Wills It, <Vote>, Zulfy, <Vote>, <Vote>, drealmerz7, <Vote>, keyenpeydee, <α>
[L-10] drealmerz7 -
[L-10] Fire Assassin -
[L-10] keyenpeydee -
[L-5] Joey_ - Fire Assassin, <Vote>, <Vote>, <Vote>, Flubbernugget,
[L-10] Flubbernugget -
[L-10] Keyser Söze -
[L-9] Zulfy - <Vote>
[L-9] Caesar Wills It - -Grey-

Not Voting - Keyser Söze

[drealmerz7]

grey fosho

[Infinity 324]

@dreal, look at it from my perspective -
do you think scum-keyen would have been a bit more strategic in the way he wanted to push through my miss-lynch on D1?
He'd been speed-lynched on D2.

I don't like this "too scummy to be scum" argument. Scum sometimes just play badly or think they can get away with things like that.

Can everyone claim where their D1 vote was:

[L+1] -Grey- - Joey_, Caesar Wills It, <Vote>, Zulfy, <Vote>, <Vote>, drealmerz7, <Vote>, keyenpeydee, <α>
[L-10] drealmerz7 -
[L-10] Fire Assassin -
[L-10] keyenpeydee -
[L-5] Joey_ - Fire Assassin, <Vote>, <Vote>, <Vote>, Flubbernugget,
[L-10] Flubbernugget -
[L-10] Keyser Söze -
[L-9] Zulfy - <Vote>
[L-9] Caesar Wills It - -Grey-

Not Voting - Keyser Söze

Assume it was on grey, if you want I'll pm the mod.

[keyenpeydee]

Grey is a gut town read, I doubted him, so I hammered.

I think I'll just trust my gut read on Key.

[keyenpeydee]

keyenpeydee,

[keyenpeydee]

I can't quote the Alpha vote

[keyenpeydee]

keyenpeydee, <α>

Mine ^^^