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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:10 am

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In post 848, WhemeStar wrote:I can't answer that Wraith
Answer which one?
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:11 am

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In post 850, Wraith wrote:
In post 848, WhemeStar wrote:I can't answer that Wraith
Answer which one?
847, I only got told my Role Pm
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:23 am

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I'm happy to give WhemeStar breathing space for now...
In post 782, WhemeStar wrote:Boring shouldn't of gotten a result last night if he was bloodsucked
In post 808, WhemeStar wrote:Cause I asked the mod what my power does and he said it takes away your night action.
JerryArr will be able to confirm - I am sure the explanation is simple.
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:25 am

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Same, right now I'm pretty confident in a townbloc of myself, WhemeStar, Keyser, and Grey + boring's voice.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:32 am

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VOTE: Wraith

this is scum.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:33 am

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Hi RC how are you doing?
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:36 am

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In post 853, Wraith wrote:Same, right now I'm pretty confident in a townbloc of myself, WhemeStar, Keyser, and Grey + boring's voice.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:37 am

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In post 854, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Wraith

this is scum.
How did Wraith know ɀefiend was bullshitting?
They aren't group-scum...
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:41 am

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I mean they were obvscum but sure maybe wraith is town.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:42 am

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In post 854, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Wraith

this is scum.
Considering treating this as a scumclaim
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:42 am

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In post 854, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Wraith

this is scum.
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:44 am

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No way does scum-Wraith fake counter-claim ɀefiend...?

Wraith was safely snuggled into the null-zone... no reason to make it a 1v1 and be bent over by town on D1.

We just have to go with the narrative that he is the real Underdog and adopted the alignment of Transcend (TOWN).
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:50 am

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What does underdog do
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:53 am

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In post 862, WhemeStar wrote:What does underdog do
I start as a Survivor and my alignment changes to that of the first Day death. In this case, Transcend.
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:56 am

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In post 860, -Grey- wrote:
In post 854, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Wraith

this is scum.
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Do not worry,
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Wraith has even more town-cred than me right now! :giggle:

In post 862, WhemeStar wrote:What does underdog do
"Underdog (When the first Day death occurs, adopts the alignment of the dead player. Starts as Survivor)"

Scum-Wraith must have made a balls-of-steel scum gambit to counter Zefriend with a fake-claim on D1 :twisted:


Can you use 'Underdog' as a power card? ...and a scum/town card as your alignment? [what happens there?]
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:04 am

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In post 795, boring wrote:@WhemeStar, I think the order in which night actions stack in this game are dependent on the secret numbers on our role cards. If my number had lost to the bloodsucker's, maybe I wouldn't have gotten a result last night.
As per OP:
"the action whose card is numbered the lowest is the one that takes highest priority."
Thus, I doubt the mod made an error, neither foul-play or witchcraft to blame.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:28 am

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In post 852, Keyser Söze wrote:I'm happy to give WhemeStar breathing space for now...
In post 782, WhemeStar wrote:Boring shouldn't of gotten a result last night if he was bloodsucked
In post 808, WhemeStar wrote:Cause I asked the mod what my power does and he said it takes away your night action.
JerryArr will be able to confirm - I am sure the explanation is simple.
Bloodsucking takes effect at the start of the next Day phase.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:33 am

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VOTE COUNT 2.01
No one is at L-2 or less.


Drixx: -Grey-, Wraith
RadiantCowbells: massive
Wraith: RadiantCowbells

Not voting: Drixx, Keyser Söze, Lil Uzi Vert, PimHel, WhemeStar


Day 2 deadline is 24 March, 2017 at 12:15 AM EDT, or in {(expired on 2017-03-24 00:15:00)}.

There are 9 living players, it takes 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

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boring has been treestumped, and can only talk in the game thread.
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:36 am

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Jerry presumably thought you were asking if the target would be able to keep using their action in future nights.

I mean the Bloodsucking is essentially just a nightkill. Nightkills don't prevent their target's action from being carried out, the same applies here.
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:37 pm

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Jumping ahead from page 29 where Boring outed that I targeted -Grey- and he then leapt to the conclusion that I must be scum. Sorry but no. I do have a night action, and I did target you with it, but my action doesn't kill. I've got several pages of reading to do, but given how unpleasant just page 29 was from -Grey-, I thought I'd at least put that shit to rest.
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:44 pm

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Considering you're already outed there's no reason for you not to fullclaim, dude.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:49 pm

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In post 727, Keyser Söze wrote:I can't see why a townie/scum would visit Grey unless they thought/knew he was lying about his two claims role cards or wanted to block/kill him.
Thus, Drixx's night visit reason will be interesting :twisted:
If you have played with -Grey-, at all, you'll know he claims all sorts of shit. In my limited interactions with him so far, I haven't seen any consistent way to figure him out, so I wanted to know.
In post 746, -Grey- wrote:I'm going to bathe in Drixx's blood and use RC's skin as a robe.
I get that you are over the top, but this might be taking it just a
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In post 756, -Grey- wrote:I meant what I said in 741.

RC is now firmly in my scumreads pile and I will be screaming for his blood when Drixx flips Scum.
There's no possible universe where RC and I would be scum and RC would defend me after I got tracked to someone claiming to be BP. This is so much of a reach that if it weren't for my actual role result, I would be voting you right now. Like ... I'm more surprised than you could possibly be that RC didn't immediately just vote me and instead is suspicious of you, but I literally cannot envision a possible world where that is what you're positing it to be.
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:34 pm

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Simple answer.

1) I don't think scum would have submitted nightkills last night, besides for a scum faction with the bloodsucker thing.
2) I think that a lot of people would have targeted Grey by default because they were expecting a mass redirect to go through.

I don't understand why you think that I should scumread you but I'm semi-townreading your play so that's not something that's happening atm.

Town is being led by people with no fucking clue what's going on. If we're going to let Grey, or anyone else who considers stumping someone who was fucking obvious town a boon for town, play town leader? the game's just done. I'm not entirely certain that Wheme is scum given that I believe they may not have understood what their role does but I don't want to lynch Drixx and I want grey to stop pushing trash wagons. I really don't like Massive's jump on me with a roleblock claim considering I already claimed not to have acted (ie it's a meaningless claim- although there's a chance Massive may actually be fishing?) and following up on Grey's scumread on me feels really opportunistic.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:42 pm

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It makes sense for a scum faction to use the bloodsucker ability when they're afraid of a redirect on themselves. If they hit town, cool. If they get hit themselves, it's at least more fun than actually dying. So assuming that my track on Drixx can't be used to learn alignment, I'm most inclined to think WhemeStar is scum. I wasn't wildly scummy yesterday. I was aiming for middle-of-the-road (because I didn't want to be killed N1 again!). Wheme has suggested that he essentially sought to vig me (or at least strip me of abilities, which town wouldn't do to a town read). I find it hard to believe that my play would have made me a top scum read to a neutral observer of day 1. If he had only skimmed, I'd still be an unlikely target. I mean, of the three people I voted, two turned out to not be town (at the time of my vote).

It just doesn't add up. Also, in a Grey!tinfoil, it's unfolded in a way that could have been predicted, had a scum team actually planned this. Wheme to treestump, Grey to buddy, spin, and claim BP. I'm pretty darned impressionable, so they could have figured me an easy pocket. (Too bad I'm not very loyal with my impressionableness!)

There are a maximum of 3 scum left, but that doesn't mean there are actually 3. There could easily be only one faction left at this point. Or even a lone scum. That means a treestump might legitimately have been all that happened (and all that was going to happen, despite the roleblock and a BP claim). If I had a vote, I'd have it on WhemeStar right now.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:53 pm

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You think I bloodsuck u cause i SR you?
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