Mini 1889: Greatest Idea Mafia (Endgame!)

[massive]

Both

town-RC and scum-RC is known for fake-claiming shit so I think he needs to be 100% solid and trustworthy going forward...
...partically in a game where power cards carry less town-cred and with the possibility of multiple scum factions.

I can't imagine that this expectation will end well, no matter what alignment RC is.

[massive]

I'm still voting RC. Sure, the scum no-kill gambit is a possibility due to Grey's fakeclaim D1, but it relies on a lot more unknown variables (did scum believe Grey? was scum a likely target if Grey's ability was true?) that I can't answer. Also, probably how risk-averse said scum are. Maybe I like thinking I did something good but I prefer my own action and likely result.

[-Grey-]

I'm comfortable with lynching RC today.

It just doesn't make sense for him to discard Hider instead of use it as his alignment card if he didn't want the role.

@mod

: does SuperSaint shot bypass bulletproof?

[Keyser Söze]

[If I was 'mafia', I personally would have chose to not NK on N1 if I was single scum, OR only had 1 other teammate. I.e damage limitation. If I had 2-4 other teammates I would have submitted the factional kill regardless of Grey's convincing fake-claim.]

[Keyser Söze]

Catching up from 36

Did you have anything else to flag from your page 36 to page 43 catch-up?

What's your feels on Wraith and WhemeStar?

[-Grey-]

And frankly, I could also see myself lynching Kaiser.

Role madness games where scum have the inherent upper hand is not where you tinker around with your playstyle. Do that shit in the newbie queue.

[-Grey-]

And frankly, I could also see myself lynching Keyser.

Role madness games where scum have the inherent upper hand is not where you tinker around with your playstyle. Do that shit in the newbie queue.

FU autocorrect

[Keyser Söze]

RE: PimHel's alignment card claim: "Bodyguard"
I can't see scum-PimHel using Bodyguard as a power role, can you?
PimHel earns 25% of 1 town point.

It's a WIFOM question, but thoughts?

[Keyser Söze]

And frankly, I could also see myself lynching Keyser.

Role madness games where scum have the inherent upper hand is not where you tinker around with your playstyle. Do that shit in the newbie queue.

As long as I'm helping to lynch scum and protecting town I think my playstyle is effective this game.
Me choosing to alter my playstyle is not scum-indicative.
I would only accept a lynch on my slot if I felt I was strongly working against my WIN-CON.
Then, I would offer myself as an info-lynch.

If you think I am scum, I think you need to address your reads for D2.
We have 10 days to sort players.
I advise that you use this time to sort me.

[-Grey-]

Keyser, the best way to sort you is to get you out of this "not voting" bullshit.

And since you won't play along willingly...

VOTE: Keyser

[Keyser Söze]

As I have posted before, I will only vote to ensure a lynch.
I can push through lynches with my words.
If you think this is scum-indicative behaviour then you will need to re-write your scum-tell book post-game.
FTR: voting me will not make me change my playstyle.

[-Grey-]

The fact you're building a playstyle around digging VCA is enough to make me happy to push your lynch through anywhere I see it happening because that's pro-scum behavior.

[-Grey-]

The fact you're building a playstyle around dodging VCA is enough to make me happy to push your lynch through anywhere I see it happening because that's pro-scum behavior.

Edit

[Keyser Söze]

VCA is useful information, but lynches should not be pushed through based purely on them.
It would be tactically naive to just look at VCA in a Greatest Idea Mafia game.
Scum will choose when to support and when not to support lynches for their own gain.
I have been very open about every read and suspicion I have possessed, so I am not escaping the clutches of accountability.

Everything I have posted can be backed up with solid reasoning and genuine paranoia.

[-Grey-]

Not good enough.

You dodge wagon analysis, you can eat rope. Put your fucking vote where your mouth is.

[Keyser Söze]

As I have posted before, I will only vote to ensure a lynch.

Your dislike of my playstyle is twisting your read of me.

The more I keep faithful to it

,

the stronger your scum read of me will become

.

I can sense your frustration. Me explaining my position to you is not helping you find scum.

Your focus on VCA is disappointing, but understandable.

I will stop defending myself now, as I feel I have given a clear and sufficient reply to you.

I will now continue to scum-hunt.

[-Grey-]

And I will continue pushing your lynch.

[WhemeStar]

Grey isn't wanting to lynch someone because of their playstyle bad

[-Grey-]

Grey isn't wanting to lynch someone because of their playstyle bad

He's hiding scum intent behind playstyle, huge difference.

Town has no reason to avoid wagon analysis and vca. Only scum does.

[WhemeStar]

Sorry buddy I won't be joining you on that wagon

[Keyser Söze]

If I was actively voting today, I wouldn't be voting anyone right now anyway.

As I stated previously (my D2 agenda list):

- before we escalate any wagon/roleclaim, PimHel must be replaced / offered a solid catch-up
- RC must clarify which of his claims are real/fake
- massive must offer thoughts outside of scum-RC
- I want to hear about Wraith's Lil Uzi Vert scum-read

[-Grey-]

Frankly, if you do flip town this game I'm going to avoid you in the future for reasons stated.

Scum is the only acceptable excuse for your play.

[Wraith]

Wraith, tell me about your LUV scum read.

Aw geez that's like ancient history at this point. I need to review the ISO when I get the time in order to jog my memory.

[Wraith]

The fact you're building a playstyle around dodging VCA is enough to make me happy to push your lynch through anywhere I see it happening because that's pro-scum behavior.

Edit

Isn't VCA entirely useless in a setup like this?

[-Grey-]

No?