BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

[BigYoshiFan]

It's not like we can read your neighborhood you're going to have to explain that.

Demanding reads from Vifam, which was consistent with their SR on Vifam. A certain seriousness to their posts that I liked. A certain comment(s) venting on another player(s).

[BigYoshiFan]

that's legit.

I'm catching the disease, halp. I thought this wasn't gonna happen for like... ever.

[Gorkington]

A certain comment(s) venting on another player(s)

i wonder who it could be.
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[Titus]

A certain comment(s) venting on another player(s)

i wonder who it could be.
(':

Actually not you. I usually don't vent on specific town.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I’m halfway curious why mastin keeps saying “I am waiting on Spiffeh approval” about whatever gambit he had going in his PT. I don’t really care about the gambit itself but really want to know why King Spiffeh needs to issue the royal decree for release of information to the masses when clearly scum have to know whatever secret junk was going down.

@Titus

– Just stop on the credit thing. You aren’t getting lynched today so it really doesn’t matter. Just push on another scum.
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apart from that it might keep us alive if they are scum.
if they're town, scum has to be careful whether or not we actually get shot.
yknow?
-HS

Hey I agree you are the smart watch target. But silently make your choice and communicate it in your Neighorhood overnight as close to deadline for Day 3 as you can … for reasons.

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VOTE: Vecna

@Titus please girl, shut the hell up about the credit thing. no one gives a flying fuck.

No matter what everyone else says Nahdia – I think you are a good egg.

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wheres that picture of people laughing..

Stop trying to steal my visual media …

So why’d you vote me today Gork? I want to hear from direct from the source.

Also – do you want to talk about scum read still or am I no longer cool?

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I actually did, i even linked bee's scum meta.
But as I said yesterday, everyone seemed to have flat out ignored it.

Yeah meta cases mostly suck. Sorry but that’s the truth. Yours may have been solid buying in requires the audience to have the same experiences as you. My experience with beefboy is basically playing in a game he modded (Fire and Ice) aka none. I’ll look back to check but I’m guessing I tuned you out as you had no behavioral tells from this game for me to reference. If I’m wrong shame on me but I don’t think I am.

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White knighting a mislynch (the stronger the player, the better! And also, the stronger the wagon momentum, the better), while not actually making much effort to stop it, is Titus's scum MO.

Did you read what I just said about meta to Sakura? If not do so. You are selling trying to sell me that scum think the upside of not mislynching me when it looks viable (and the SAD kill was tailor made to sell it) is greater than not pushing it through and you know I’m not buying that with meta as the backup.

[BigYoshiFan]

HS' read on me is totally unrealistic, even if I turn out to be scum.

Why would town ever say this?

To intensify how unrealistic their read on me can't be from town.

If you're town, you're never flipping scum, so why consider it? It's one thing to say If I am scum in the abstract, it's another to say if I flip scum?

There's nothing in Titus' posts that I find particularly scummy. Collectively, I find them quite townie. Certain posts like this one just rub me the right way. Her vote on Gin was fine too.

[mastina]

Mastina are you alright? Like everything going okay in real life and stuff?

Never a good question to ask. You might actually receive an answer. Not something you want me to go on about. I had a VERY FUCKING LONG weekend. I have had a shitton of things going wrong for me lately. I am absolutely pissed off at a whole group of people in real life because of their despicable actions (basically they lied on every possible level in an absolute breach of conduct that was a betrayal and hurt bad especially given that them doing this was opening up an old wound), that aside from living with my dad (and the unpleasantness of that) and all the crap I have on my plate right now.

I'm also frustratingly becoming disturbingly close to being a kuribo clone,

and I fucking KNOW I am

, which makes it all the worse because even fucking kuribo hates how he played and knows just how considerably unhealthy it was. Also this game went into day before I could actually read the damn thing because I was V/LA overnight, meaning that my stances (while I feel they are accurate) are weaker than they fucking should be.

If I had read the entire game, I would be able to state as much, state that my stances don't make assumptions, that my stances are grounded firmly 100% in reality, but because I was denied that by virtue of being so heavily V/LA, now I have to deal with shitty accusations that my stances

aren't

grounded in reality and I am in no fucking mood for that. I'm just sick of people doubting me.

[mastina]

So... I'm being scumread by some on the premise that there's likely at least one scum in my neighborhood and that everyone else in my neighborhood is likely town? Not trying to discredit it at all, I just want to understand.

Interesting theory you've got there.

[Gorkington]

Stop trying to steal my visual media …

So why’d you vote me today Gork? I want to hear from direct from the source.

Also – do you want to talk about scum read still or am I no longer cool?

all your pics r belong to us.

and i voted you because it felt right.
i think your vote on gin was kind of waffles.
between the confidence on it being a scumlynch and already positing about scum pushing the wagon as a bus it just felt really weird?
i think you should really address what sakura asked you about WHO on the wagon was the scum pushing the bus.

i can also kind of hear SAD yelling at me from the graveyard.
but theres also lots to worry about with that.

im feeling pretty okay about my ank/titus scumreads.
if you want to talk about them/vecna/???? i would be down.
but i would like you to kind of ground yourself and address sakura first please!

[Titus]

@Titus – Just stop on the credit thing. You aren’t getting lynched today so it really doesn’t matter. Just push on another scum.
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Mastina, Vifam or Nahdia, which should I push?

[mastina]

Titus sounds hella town in the neighborhood.

My stance there should ALSO be fairly well-known. (Yes I know that

right now

, I am benefitting from this as well because a considerable number of the reasons I am town are CURRENTLY in the neighborhood, but I fully intend to bring them ALL out 100% once I get the green light from Spiffeh to do so. Butstill. Fuck "town for neighborhood shit".)

[Nahdia]

@Titus – Just stop on the credit thing. You aren’t getting lynched today so it really doesn’t matter. Just push on another scum.
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Mastina, Vifam or Nahdia, which should I push?

me. let's dance.

[Creature]

What are these people that still scumread Creature?
What they do?
Why they insist to think Creature is scum?

[BigYoshiFan]

So... I'm being scumread by some on the premise that there's likely at least one scum in my neighborhood and that everyone else in my neighborhood is likely town? Not trying to discredit it at all, I just want to understand.

Interesting theory you've got there.

I haven't read a lot of posts, but I've ego-searched my name in quite a few. I don't remember where the BYF/RR pairing came from, but given we're in the same neighborhood, I thought it came from that.
There are people who have me has a scumread, but no one who has actually gone out of their way to push me. I didn't see many reasons me being scum either, just as a sort of placeholder for when they're ready to push me.

[MagnaofIllusion]

i think you should really address what sakura asked you about WHO on the wagon was the scum pushing the bus.

So was 3786 in secret agent ink that only Sakura could read?

[Ankamius]

I was trying to emulate my PR-town play in order to draw a night kill since I figured out pretty quickly that there's a lot of 'leader' types and we really don't need another one.

Yeah this is bullshit.

I did see you doing the crumbs. That's one of the main fucking reasons I'm scumreading you though, is specifically because of them. So while you were in fact trying to emulate your town PR play this reason is absolute shit.

Okay then, genius. Why would I try to emulate a style that blatantly isn't my usual town style instead of just riding the fact that the town is a clusterfuck and just feigning complete apathy and 'waiting' for an opportunity instead of trying to stir the pot as much as I did?

I have a precedent of not being effective at all in fast-moving games and being useless. It makes no sense for me to go that route as scum.

[Majiffy]

Mastina I'm sending you a virtual hug

@your IRL shit

[BigYoshiFan]

[MagnaofIllusion]

Mastina, Vifam or Nahdia, which should I push?

That's the only choices?

I mean - mastin probably is Town for the absolute unwarranted ego being thrown off today. The fact that mastin is floating "Oh, Titus is playing just like RR in SU2" as a viable angle when that would be monumentally stupid of you given that play didn't work for RR and all three of us know it says to me "Defcon Mastin".

Vifam - as I said I probably will never be able to read Vifam because Vifam has the "play bad as Town forever and you can never be scum read easily" thing going. Spyro and the recently ended Darkest Dungeon really have shaped my opinion on him. I'd really have to see something in Day 1 that said "strong link to Bee / Gin" to go there today.

Likewise I don't think scum Nahdia decides to join me on Vecna today like she did. Maybe if both Ank and I are Town and the scum team was certain that Town Ank or Town MoI was going down. But even then those funky off-votes might be VCA poison down the line.

[Ankamius]

I am pretty certain that there's a lot of scum voting me right now regardless.

[Majiffy]

obligatory OP's dick comment

[Ankamius]

This wagon in general feels very not town, especially all of the bizarre sheeping.

[Gorkington]

why are you being so vague with things this game?
call out specific votes.
jesus ank.
:/

[Ankamius]

The most basic answer to why Sakura's scum for how she's been interacting towards me is that she pretty blatantly waffled on her read towards me and dropped it immediately when I confronted her about it; she also refused to interact with me every time I asked her questions; now that I'm onto her and it seems possible that I'll be lynched, she's suddenly a lot more emboldened to put up a direct scumread towards me.

That behavior doesn't make sense from a Sakura with organic reads, but it does make sense for a Sakura scum that wants to avoid interacting with me if she has any ability to.

[Ankamius]

Do you want me to point out all my scumreads? I specifically said I didn't feel it was worth bothering with before since most of them are strong overall town reads.