Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

[Transcend]

People are babies lol

Thanks for the happy wishes guys

[RadiantCowbells]

Almost caught up.

I don't know why RC has no charisma this game, but its pretty disheartening. I only have experience with lynch rallying RC, not with how he is playing this game. I guess this is more likely to come from town tho? Don't really see the benefit for a player known for vocally strongarming players into the void would decide to lurk here when they rolled scum. That kind of discrepancy would draw unessecery attention that scum wouldn't want.

Nancy has been looking a lot like last game sans that stuff that caused me to hard town read her. Don't think I'd want to lynch her though. As she has been more a spammy distraction then actually scummy.

Early in the day I thought Nancy vs Transcend had a lot of scum-scum interactions. But they both seem content to lynch at this each other at this point so my initial impression is probably wrong. If it comes down nancy, or Transend for today's lynch I'm probably voting Transcend.

Still think that momo is town. I do disagree with his push on Riley for her postingstyle, but in contrast I thought his early antics where he was goading other players on, and generally was unafraid of a lynch looks town. Also think him not letting us assume he was new by telling us about his offsite experience was a bold move. If a new MafiaScum user with off site experience rolled scum I'd expect them to take anything they could get for town cred. Instead Momo was like, "An alibi to hide behind? No thanks." lol

Why are you talking in general as opposed to talking to me?

[Grendel]

I had a few other things to say about some players, but I don't think I have the time to go into much detail tonight. I'll just leave this here, and come back tomorrow.

loose reads list

Momo Fro99er Rileycountant

Hiraki RadiantCowbells

nancy ThinkBig GreenCrayons

Transcend

JaeReed hapahauli Darklyn

Of course hapahali x JaeReed x Darklyn is a team I ship. I really don't see Transend with JeaReed, and there isn't much that I saw between Transend and hapahuali. So if Transend is scum it'd be with Darklyn, and somebody I'm not currently scum reading. Obviously not an assumption I'd want to make.

Pre-edit

words

These notepad thoughts are fine and acceptable and whatever, but I am really hoping you'll come out swinging with a case after you've finished your catch up.

I actually intended to, I just got back much later today then I expected. Atm I just wanted ppl to know that I'm still here.

Tomorrow should be better since I'd be done with a big graphic design inner rim.

[RadiantCowbells]

Grendel you're pinging me a lot.

[Grendel]

Almost caught up.

I don't know why RC has no charisma this game, but its pretty disheartening. I only have experience with lynch rallying RC, not with how he is playing this game. I guess this is more likely to come from town tho? Don't really see the benefit for a player known for vocally strongarming players into the void would decide to lurk here when they rolled scum. That kind of discrepancy would draw unessecery attention that scum wouldn't want.

Nancy has been looking a lot like last game sans that stuff that caused me to hard town read her. Don't think I'd want to lynch her though. As she has been more a spammy distraction then actually scummy.

Early in the day I thought Nancy vs Transcend had a lot of scum-scum interactions. But they both seem content to lynch at this each other at this point so my initial impression is probably wrong. If it comes down nancy, or Transend for today's lynch I'm probably voting Transcend.

Still think that momo is town. I do disagree with his push on Riley for her postingstyle, but in contrast I thought his early antics where he was goading other players on, and generally was unafraid of a lynch looks town. Also think him not letting us assume he was new by telling us about his offsite experience was a bold move. If a new MafiaScum user with off site experience rolled scum I'd expect them to take anything they could get for town cred. Instead Momo was like, "An alibi to hide behind? No thanks." lol

Why are you talking in general as opposed to talking to me?

I wanted to give you some space to do your thing. Which hasn't worked out I guess?

Pre-edit
Oh, I get it now.

[Grendel]

Were you waiting for me to engage you directly?

[RadiantCowbells]

I can get that. I'm not interested in pushing on you today either way.

Yes I was expecting you to but I fully understand you keeping your distance as town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I like the nancy wagon so I'm happy to sit on that. If something else really calls me I will get invested and start pushing on it.

[Grendel]

I have to confess that I haven't been as motivated and on top of things as I want to be.

I don't enjoy playing that much on this site, yet I never can seem to stop myself from joining games here.

Pre-edit

I think Darklyn is better.

Nancy hasn't been scummy, just noisy.

[Hiraki]

Addendum to the Hiraki tries to find nancy reasoning:

sorry nancy but I'm obligated to bus you this game it's nothing personal I just want the sweet sweet towncred.

nancy I note taht you haven't said much to transcend about him voting you and hardpushing you: why

nancy I note taht you haven't said much to transcend about him voting you and hardpushing you: why

I can't answer until he does more things without influencing what he'll do.

well fuck if this isn't the spoonful of sugar in the corn flakes

VOTE: nancy

(enter nothing here)

[Grendel]

RC, is nancy a gut read for you?

[Grendel]

VOTE: Darklyn

[JaeReed]

horrordude is probs town then, shitposting suits scum

ok Grendel, let's play ball. What do you think of this post?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can I instead ask why you're against it? I'm reading her for /reasons/ but I want to know the /reasons/ you're against it.

[Hiraki]

If you give me a solid reason to vote her, I'll join you.

Your best bet on this wagon is that because you believe I'm defending Nancy that if she flips scum, you have a 1-2 punch. I'm not defending her if the only accusation toward her play that I can find is anti-town logic rather than actual reasons.

[hapahauli]

Transcend, Rileycountant, Grendel

My top three after reading. Oh phone, will make a wall after I get back home.

[hapahauli]

Actually you can take Grendel off the list. I'm sort of meh on him. Feel much stronger about the first two.

[hapahauli]

Transcend

is just remarkably passive considering his activity in this game. What's scummy about his filter is not what's in there,

but what's missing

.

• Firstly, he's not really taking leaderhsip at all despite his activity level. I'm not asking him to be the #1 town leader, but it's likely that someone active and town is going to be pushing their ideas forward and first aggressively. He's not really doing that. He's never the first to put a read forward. He's just "present", popping in and out of the game and chiming in on whatever he feels like.
  
• Secondly, consider his whole tunnel on Nancy. Nancy is super active in the thread. Transcend is super active in the thread. Transcend surely will want to interact with the person he's reading strongly as mafia and has encouraged the town to L-1, right? Well not really.
  
  He votes Nancy in post #184 (March 13th, 12:58am)

  VOTE:

  nancy

  
  
  the tides have turned m'lady
  
  

  L2

  ...but the rest of his interactions with nancy are pretty much light-hearted trolls:

  So currently my scum trio is as follows:
  
  1. Rileycountant
  2. Nancy (was prob bussing)
  3. ????

  This is poo poo

  Lol I figured you were just trolling.

  I'm no troll

  ...or talking to other people about nancy:

  How do you feel about momo?
  
  I think that the momo/nancy interactions are off.

  It's so unnatural to ignore your top scummread like that. Transcend seems like he's more interested in tunneling nancy rather than actually trying to figure out nancy's alignment. And a quick look through nancy's other games leads me to believe that there should be huge doubts about her alignment (generally "anti-town", "spammy" playstyle as town) based on her filter so far.

[Transcend]

i don't know who hap replaced

but that's a scum slot

is nancy not burning today? if not then momo or hap can burn.

ezpz.

[Transcend]

im home btw

[hapahauli]

Can you explain why you're so confident that nancy is going to flip mafia?

Have you played in any completed games with her before??

[hapahauli]

Also kinda meh-ing out of my read on the Riley slot. I misread some of her earlier posts with nancy.

VOTE: Transcend

Definitely sticking with this for now. Will update a bit more tomorrow morning.

[hapahauli]

People that are town:

ThinkBig
- Posting seems very direct and to the point. "Passive" play is consistent with overall playstyle.
- Replacing out in a game like this is almost always town. Scum don't get "demotivated" by a spamposting fest, since it's a great atmosphere for mafia to hide, and town to eat itself alive.

Frogger
- Ditto on the replacement here. Previous player replacing out is almost always town.
- JaeReed vs. Frogger was very TvT.

JaeReed
- Lots of genuine frustration all game shown at defending himself. Particularly the Frogger interaction.

[Transcend]

Can you explain why you're so confident that nancy is going to flip mafia?

Have you played in any completed games with her before??

she's scummy

no

[Transcend]

anyone who analyzes someone replacing out should burn on policy