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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:29 pm

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VOTE: alisae

jaereed your scumread reacted really crappily to the pressure on him

come vote with me
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:30 pm

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also elaborate on the alisae/pjm partner pings because i fos both of them right now and i wanna see what you found there to see if it solidifies my read even more.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:30 pm

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SOMEHOW I FORGOT USAGICHAN WAS IN THIS GAME

I STALKED THE /INS AND SAW HER BUT I FORGOT SHE WAS IN THIS GAME STILL

idk if you know I'm elephantasm bc my main used to be impoetic on EM but then schutzekatze reversed it and tyler stole the old one

OK so
In post 122, gerryoat wrote:yes, i am sure. they bw your vote for no reason.
In post 124, gerryoat wrote:Darklyn is either trolling the whole game so far or mafia. that's my only read so far
he's relaxed enough but wagoning isn't scummy

just because reasons weren't voiced doesn't mean there were none, there was legitimate reason to wagon pjm there and even if there weren't, forming wagons early on as good. PJM's reaction was telling I think. He fools me sometimes in normal mafia though
In post 125, gerryoat wrote:yes. i know impoetic does flop votes back and forth like a dying fish constantly as town, so i am willing to give them the botd right now
;-;
In post 197, JaeReed wrote:fun fact: dunnstral has been mafia with me before. he knows this isn't my scum play.

but i don't feel like omgus reading him because iirc sometimes he just doesn't take the 2 seconds to think about how it can't be my scum play (QC maf for example)
if you're aware of what can be your scumplay and what can't why can't you manipulate it? You posted unprompted, you had all the time you wanted to prepare that post.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:31 pm

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In post 198, Transcend wrote:Agree, not a super strong read.
In post 177, Transcend wrote:juri is my top townread
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:31 pm

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Impo nice avi.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:31 pm

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VOTE: impoetic

I WAS RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:33 pm

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In post 202, Impoetic wrote:SOMEHOW I FORGOT USAGICHAN WAS IN THIS GAME

I STALKED THE /INS AND SAW HER BUT I FORGOT SHE WAS IN THIS GAME STILL

idk if you know I'm elephantasm bc my main used to be impoetic on EM but then schutzekatze reversed it and tyler stole the old one

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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:37 pm

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Ok sure Transcend, here's my thoughts in purple -
In post 149, JaeReed wrote:Transcend - reads are ok, maybe town, kinda tryharding tho so paranoid of this
I view this as more non-commital than just a way to approach you. This could be a legitimate read, but surely you see that it gives him wiggle room to scumread you later in the game.

gerryoat - tryharding, probscum for it
This is a bad readbecause Gerry is barely tryharding, and the basis of "tryharding" making someone scum doesn't make sense, unless this is a very specific meta read. Even so, this seems vague.

Darklyn - obvtown
At least FMPOV, I don't see a good reason to mark Darklyn as obvious town, and it made me think he was potentially parroting off of Transcend's read.

Juri - dunno, maybe town
This is fine, even though it's vague.

Trivium - null
Crash - null
Impoetic - obvtown, this just isn't her scum play, i'd know considering we hydra'd as scum
This is also OK, and I agree.

projectmatt - scum, most posts are posturing
"Posturing" is a vague buzzword that doesn't explain anything at all, and it looks like he scumreads me largely because he sees that me and Alise are an easy pick for partners if one of us is scum.

Dunnstral - null
JaeReed - me!
nancy - null
Alisae - scum, I can read this with scary accuracy, trans he was trying to buddy you earlier and there are also partner pings with matt if you check
I think this read is trash, particularly before Alisae reacted to this thread. There's nothing about Alis's opening play in this game that indicates that they are scum, but quite the contrary. The only reason given here is meta, which is something that I have trouble buying. Meta can be valid, but it seems like a fallback excuse or something that's easy to coast on. Also, I am an incredibly easy person to paint as a partner of Alise since we've -defended- each other, wihch makes me feel like he was going for people he percieved as easy targets.

usagichan - null

if you want a free scum lynch then it's Ali, if you want to save him for later that's fine too just remember he's scum when i'm nightkilled.
I force tells like this all the time when I'm scum, so I'm wary of this.


pedit trans you always scumread me early game, i wouldn't play this way as scum so you're wasting your time
This is bad for reasons I don't think I need to explain.

pedit2 lol ok that was actually funny
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:37 pm

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No you weren't. And your logic for alisae being town was bad, too.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:37 pm

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that's blue
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:38 pm

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In post 204, Alisae wrote:Impo nice avi.
Nice avi alisae
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:38 pm

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In post 210, Impoetic wrote:
In post 204, Alisae wrote:Impo nice avi.
Nice avi alisae
Why thank you. ;)
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:38 pm

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In post 209, Dunnstral wrote:that's blue
fkin fight me
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:38 pm

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Hey Impoetic



How's it going

Also I disagree - I'm not a big fan of that one from Alisae
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:39 pm

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In post 208, Impoetic wrote:No you weren't. And your logic for alisae being town was bad, too.

chillax

i just meme voted again

jajajajja

VOTE: alisae
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:40 pm

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oh shit transcend is scum lol
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:41 pm

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UNVOTE:

hmmm
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:42 pm

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everything i know is a lie
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:43 pm

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I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:44 pm

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In post 204, Alisae wrote:Impo nice avi.
Your new one is good stuff
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:45 pm

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In post 197, JaeReed wrote:fun fact: dunnstral has been mafia with me before. he knows this isn't my scum play.

but i don't feel like omgus reading him because iirc sometimes he just doesn't take the 2 seconds to think about how it can't be my scum play (QC maf for example)
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:46 pm

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st0p AVI TALKING IM TRYNNA SOLVE THIS HERE GAME
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:46 pm

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In post 218, Transcend wrote:I want JR to respond to 201 and 207 before I go any further in this game
and 199 and 220
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:47 pm

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In post 221, Transcend wrote:st0p AVI TALKING IM TRYNNA SOLVE THIS HERE GAME
Well Alisae reverted his av back to the old one, which is an obvious scum tell. We're doing important work solving the game here
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:47 pm

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In post 207, projectmatt wrote:
In post 149, JaeReed wrote:Transcend - reads are ok, maybe town, kinda tryharding tho so paranoid of this
I view this as more non-commital than just a way to approach you. This could be a legitimate read, but surely you see that it gives him wiggle room to scumread you later in the game.
your point?
gerryoat - tryharding, probscum for it
This is a bad readbecause Gerry is barely tryharding, and the basis of "tryharding" making someone scum doesn't make sense, unless this is a very specific meta read. Even so, this seems vague.
this is definitely a very specific metaread, as jae has voiced it to me before, but I think they also voiced it to gerry, so I've been torn about it personally.
Darklyn - obvtown
At least FMPOV, I don't see a good reason to mark Darklyn as obvious town, and it made me think he was potentially parroting off of Transcend's read.
hey, I had the tr on darklyn before transcend did, and no I don't think he's obvious town but I haven't seen a reason to change it and felt like he was good earlier on.
projectmatt - scum, most posts are posturing
"Posturing" is a vague buzzword that doesn't explain anything at all, and it looks like he scumreads me largely because he sees that me and Alise are an easy pick for partners if one of us is scum.
"Posturing" amounts to the concerns I had earlier. You think I'm town, right? I don't think that makes jaereed town at all and something about this post bugs me but the read itself makes sense to me personally.
Alisae - scum, I can read this with scary accuracy, trans he was trying to buddy you earlier and there are also partner pings with matt if you check
I think this read is trash, particularly before Alisae reacted to this thread. There's nothing about Alis's opening play in this game that indicates that they are scum, but quite the contrary. The only reason given here is meta, which is something that I have trouble buying. Meta can be valid, but it seems like a fallback excuse or something that's easy to coast on. Also, I am an incredibly easy person to paint as a partner of Alise since we've -defended- each other, wihch makes me feel like he was going for people he percieved as easy targets.
if one of you gets lynched it doesn't matter that the other is the partner, and I really don't buy people strategizing this hard with early reads like this.

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