Gay Mafia 3: Trumpocalypse Now D8

[Sir Elton Hercules John]

VC 2.16

Hocho Knife - 9 (bundle of sticks, Syryana, SAD, Desperado, kuribo, Wraith, Kise, ABR, Majiffy)
Little Red Fedora - 1 (Brian Skies)
Majiffy - 2 (Vaxkiller, DGB)
ABR - 1 (Spiffeh)
xyzzy - 1 (LRF)
kuribo - 1 (Hocho Knife)

With 21 alive, it's 11 to lynch. Deadline is 4/1 at 4PM EST

[Little Red Fedora]

HOLY SHIT I'M SO GREAT I HEALED SPIFFEH LIKE A MUTHAFUCKIN BOSS TOUCHIN UGLY HOES TURNIN WATER INTO FINE

This is me. I have no interest in confirming or denying my flavor as I don't see how it helps town. It would only help scum plan their fakes.

[Spiffeh]

Why would you claim that

[Kise]

I guess I do wanna ask something else. So u made it seem like u didn't crumb anything and that xyz is scum faking something they imagined they saw. If both of your heads were aware of the crumb and it resulted in Titus biting Ali's head off, then why were u making it seem like xyz couldn't possibly have seen anything to secretly townread you?

[Kise]

Man I should've hammered Hocho with my double vote when I had the chance

[Little Red Fedora]

Why would you claim that

Xyz outed us with his wierd whiteknight. Ali made obvious crumbs. Basically, everyone knew anyway.

[Tammy]

Just putting this out there but unless you think he's scum that did that arguing over what he did, even if you're totally in the right, is just going to add more pages to what has already been a far too long dumb point of this game.

I really really really do not want to read a too many page argument with grey again.

I actually do think there's a possibility he might be scum.

The argument with him trying to draw the NK doesn't align with him "roleplaying trump, after all".

If he wanted to actually set up for a way to draw the NK by sounding like the real trump, he would do it in a more subtle way that wasn't yelling like he's super dense, because then no body believes him and people just think he's a VI, and the scum would never kill him.

Moreover, if he HAD actually CCed trump, does he really think he "would draw the NK". In what world does that actually make sense. No, he would probably be lynched on the spot. Or even IF in some strange universe we believe he's telling the truth, then we would lynch desp, the other claimed trump. How does he believe that by falsely counter claiming trump, he would draw the NK AND save the actual trump?

I do agree with this, and it wasn't believable anyway because there wasn't a peep from him early day two when I had my moment of paranoia with the claim.

I do have problems with his play and one of them is hiding behind big arguments to have something to do and drown the thread instead of really hunt for scum. Which is one reason why I don't want another argument starting up.

[Little Red Fedora]

I guess I do wanna ask something else. So u made it seem like u didn't crumb anything and that xyz is scum faking something they imagined they saw. If both of your heads were aware of the crumb and it resulted in Titus biting Ali's head off, then why were u making it seem like xyz couldn't possibly have seen anything to secretly townread you?

He would have faked making a towncase with a wink or a nudge if he was town that saw my crumbs, or so I would think. I didn't want him to go there but once he did, it was locked and the die was cast. Everyone knew.

[Little Red Fedora]

Just putting this out there but unless you think he's scum that did that arguing over what he did, even if you're totally in the right, is just going to add more pages to what has already been a far too long dumb point of this game.

I really really really do not want to read a too many page argument with grey again.

I actually do think there's a possibility he might be scum.

The argument with him trying to draw the NK doesn't align with him "roleplaying trump, after all".

If he wanted to actually set up for a way to draw the NK by sounding like the real trump, he would do it in a more subtle way that wasn't yelling like he's super dense, because then no body believes him and people just think he's a VI, and the scum would never kill him.

Moreover, if he HAD actually CCed trump, does he really think he "would draw the NK". In what world does that actually make sense. No, he would probably be lynched on the spot. Or even IF in some strange universe we believe he's telling the truth, then we would lynch desp, the other claimed trump. How does he believe that by falsely counter claiming trump, he would draw the NK AND save the actual trump?

I do agree with this, and it wasn't believable anyway because there wasn't a peep from him early day two when I had my moment of paranoia with the claim.

I do have problems with his play and one of them is hiding behind big arguments to have something to do and drown the thread instead of really hunt for scum. Which is one reason why I don't want another argument starting up.

I want Grey to explain his reachout to me though, especially because it was noise on XYZ's lack of reason to TR me.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I was hoping scum might think Desperado fakeclaimed Trump to cover for the real one and that I was planning a cc tomorrow (in order to draw the NK... because if they killed me, they'd have expected me to flip Trump, which would lead town to powerlynch Desp).

Seriously, this is the bullshit he just said.

"I was hoping scum might think Desperado fakeclaimed Trump" -> WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY THINK THAT. Because some lunatic pulled a random crazy theory from his ass???

"to cover for the real one" -> Okay so fucking mafia know that Desp is town, and now they will think he's town who claimed to try to cover for the REAL ONE? When the real one didn't say anything in the first place, there was no pressure on the real one, and he could've just stayed quiet. Why would Desp feel the need to fake-claim "to cover for the real one".

OKAY, SO BY GREY LOGIC WE'RE AT "MAFIA THINK DESP IS TOWN BUT NOT THE REAL TRUMP"

Now here is where shit hits the fan hard

"and that I was planning a cc tomorrow" -> So let me get this straight. If Grey's plan had worked, the mafia would think that Desp is town who isn't the real trump (meanwhile he is the real trump so he doesn't get NKed). However, then grey would COUNTER-CLAIM the "fake trump"? As in, him thinking he's the real trump (and making mafia think that), or him faking he's the real trump to counter claim the supposedly fake trump, to make mafia think there's a third trump?

In either case, it doesn't make fucking sense with:

"in order to draw the NK... because if they killed me, they'd have expected me to flip Trump, which would lead town to powerlynch Desp" -> Okay, so first of fucking all, why would the day end with the town not solving one of the trump claims. Okay, but even IF by some magic we went to night with both desp and grey alive. By grey's first logic, mafia should think that Desp is a townie who claimed unprovoked to cover for the real trump. And then they would make the active conscious decision to NK Grey OVER desp? But why? Why would the REAL FUCKING TRUMP COUNTERCLAIM A FAKE TRUMP CLAIM AND NOT PUSH FOR HIS LYNCH. If we had went to night, they would obvious be able to fucking see Grey is faking it. Unless he's planning on pushing desp. Which would mean 1v1 him, which would mean one of them gets lynched. So he was gonna effectively waste our fucking day by counterclaiming the real trump.

[-Grey-]

Then how does that jive with your reachout to me? You weren't asking about faking my role on D3 then?

No, as I already said, I was telegraphing

my

intent.

Telegraphing intent, but... yeah.

[Little Red Fedora]

@Titus:

Open communication.
Code 661
D3 terminate
Execute

@Titus:

Open communication.
Code 661
D3 terminate
Execute

Negative. Heard. Noted. No intent to claim.

Mission Abort confirmed.

[-Grey-]

@Titus:

Open communication.
Code 661
D3 terminate
Execute

@Titus:

Open communication.
Code 661
D3 terminate
Execute

Negative. Heard. Noted. No intent to claim.

Mission Abort confirmed.

Yes.

I was originally GOING to fakecounter him. You said no.

So I postured instead.

[Little Red Fedora]

The context says more that you saw our role and wanted to fake claim our role, as that's what we did in Open 661, which was a defined setup and guaranteed a scum. To reach the conclusion that you wanted to cc Desperado and wanted my go ahead doesn't make much sense, especially given I TRed Desperado. There's also a stack of people more likely to be shot than Desperado given Bella/Tammy/Spiffeh/my own play. I find it hard to believe you seriously felt you would draw a scumkill on that.

[-Grey-]

Okay.

[Kise]

I guess I do wanna ask something else. So u made it seem like u didn't crumb anything and that xyz is scum faking something they imagined they saw. If both of your heads were aware of the crumb and it resulted in Titus biting Ali's head off, then why were u making it seem like xyz couldn't possibly have seen anything to secretly townread you?

He would have faked making a towncase with a wink or a nudge if he was town that saw my crumbs, or so I would think. I didn't want him to go there but once he did, it was locked and the die was cast. Everyone knew.

I don't think u had to draw attention to it period. Even if he was scum faking an investigation or something else, I don't think I personally would have suspected him for townreading me off [reasons]

This will sound rude and bossy but I'm saying this because I don't trust your decision making

If town then u are a target. From now on, you have one ONE JOB and that is healing CONFIRMED town

No pump fake plays "oh I was tryna trick scum so I healed Hocho" nonono

However I do endorse healing Tammy tho because she's the next closest thing to conftown and is also the only person we know can confirm you as well. Desp Nacho Tammy

If vax is town then tonight should be easy to confirm themselves. In fact the two/three of you may be able to split duties

[-Grey-]

Desp

Nacho Tammy

Desp is Macho.

[Little Red Fedora]

I guess I do wanna ask something else. So u made it seem like u didn't crumb anything and that xyz is scum faking something they imagined they saw. If both of your heads were aware of the crumb and it resulted in Titus biting Ali's head off, then why were u making it seem like xyz couldn't possibly have seen anything to secretly townread you?

He would have faked making a towncase with a wink or a nudge if he was town that saw my crumbs, or so I would think. I didn't want him to go there but once he did, it was locked and the die was cast. Everyone knew.

I don't think u had to draw attention to it period. Even if he was scum faking an investigation or something else, I don't think I personally would have suspected him for townreading me off [reasons]

This will sound rude and bossy but I'm saying this because I don't trust your decision making

If town then u are a target. From now on, you have one ONE JOB and that is healing CONFIRMED town

No pump fake plays "oh I was tryna trick scum so I healed Hocho" nonono

However I do endorse healing Tammy tho because she's the next closest thing to conftown and is also the only person we know can confirm you as well. Desp Nacho Tammy

If vax is town then tonight should be easy to confirm themselves. In fact the two/three of you may be able to split duties

I can accept you not trusting our judgment a bit after Ali's crumb. Maybe you handle it differently. I know my job as doctor though, but I really don't like you trying to curtail it into what I do. Yeah, the heal choices are fucking obvious here (which is why Grey's claimed plan makes no sense) and it is what I will likely do. Yet, setting this precedent doesn't help town it helps scum with wifom.

[Wraith]

If we don't hammer Hocho in 24 hours I'm voteparking on Grey.

I'm completely burned out of this day and want to go to sleep.

[Kise]

Desp

Nacho Tammy

Desp is Macho.

OOOOOOOOH SHIT

is it good idea then to have vax watch Desp for all eternity?

Grey how is it u remember and I'm now the one forgetting shit???

[-Grey-]

Vote me now, Wraith. Save time.

[-Grey-]

Desp

Nacho Tammy

Desp is Macho.

OOOOOOOOH SHIT

is it good idea then to have vax watch Desp for all eternity?

Grey how is it u remember and I'm now the one forgetting shit???

Swiss cheese memory, I get lucky sometimes.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

There's also a stack of people more likely to be shot than Desperado given Bella/Tammy/Spiffeh/

my own play

.

Fucking lol'd.

[Wraith]

Un-fucking-believable that we sat here with our dicks in our hands long enough for the Doctor to fucking claim.

Unbelievable.

[-Grey-]

Seriously not trying to gamethrow or anything (hi Titus), but I think I'm a better Lynch than Hocho.

If you're determined to sacrifice a second townie in two days, at least make it this one.