Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

[Titus]

well there are two players but they seem a bit too obvious

?

There's a hidden dynamic that's confusing here.

VOTE: Grendel

I think this should get pressure too.

[Darklyn]

Titus who are you scumreads

[Titus]

Still getting settled in but I think Grendel should be pushed given gamestate.

[Rileycountant]

Titus: Elaborate on 1077? What are your thoughts on nancy?

[Titus]

Grendel is SRed but counters keep appearing.

[Rileycountant]

You're postulating that Grendel's scumbuddies are behind the counters?

[nancy]

town!nancy who doesn't want to confbias her read does so by re-evalling Jae.

Not by lynching someone she thinks is town.

"I am afraid of accidentally lynching town that I think is scum, so I am going to... purposely lynch town I think is town". That is absurd logic used to rationalize your scummy push, the exact same way you've been rationalizing everything else you do this game.

And yes, I agree, if you're scum you'll do anything you can to murder Jae. Like I said, this is exactly what you're doing. You've set up a fake way to "confirm" Jae as a scumlord (of course the part about how a Grendel townflip makes Jae scum is conveniently skipped over) in order to get them lynched. It's even better than just lynching them on the spot, because then you get a free NK and a mislynch on Grendel to go with it.

You can call this confbiasing all you want. I call it calling out your scummy bullshit once and for all. You aren't going to wriggle out of this one like you did D1.

What you're missing here is that in my mind I've already "confirmed" Jae as a scumlord by their behavior towards my slot and Titus's slot. Grendel is only Town because Jae doesn't bus and is pushing him. You're assuming that I'm scum in all of this. You can't see outside of that. I'm considering a world where my read on Jae is wrong and their behavior, while objectively nonsense, is somehow explainable. In that world, Grendel is very likely scum. Look at my stances earlier in the Day for proof. Grendel is a scumread right up until I start reading Titus as scum and the sequence with Jae happens. I have nothing to lose by checking my conf!bias.

[nancy]

Nice bus

Momo is Town.

[nancy]

These just feel like run of the mill, canned response reasons rather than actual reasons that I think you believe.

Because they are.

[nancy]

well there are two players but they seem a bit too obvious

?

There's a hidden dynamic that's confusing here.

VOTE: Grendel

There surely is.

VOTE: Grendel

[Titus]

You're postulating that Grendel's scumbuddies are behind the counters?

It's a theory. I need to investigate.

[Transcend]

Please stop with the distracting counter wagons to nancy

I see about a 0% chance of her being town and she's been obvious since page 1

[Transcend]

Accountant summed up my entire scum read on nancy btw

[Transcend]

Hello. Finally, people are listening to me.

VOTE: Nancy

This vote is a bus

[Titus]

Please stop with the distracting counter wagons to nancy

I see about a 0% chance of her being town and she's been obvious since page 1

Why?

[Transcend]

I don't want to tryhard d2 but i will tryhard if this wagon fucking derails once more.

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 30

• nancy
  ------ 4 ( Transcend, JaeReed, Rileycountant, momo )
  L- 2
  
  
  Grendel
  ---- 2 ( Titus, nancy )
  L- 4
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  - 5 ( Fro99er, Grendel, Green Crayons, Hiraki, Darklyn )

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-04-01 18:00:00)

[nancy]

I don't bus.

[nancy]

So I groked the gamestate and unless my reads are way off or I'm messing up the PoE the scumteam is either A. {Jae, Titus, GC}, B. {Jae, Titus, momo}, or C. {Grendel, GC, Hiraki}. Go ahead and mislynch me (Jae jump off my wagon before it goes through you know why) and lynch Grendel tomorrow.

A. and B. because GC and momo are the only viable third partners to {Jae, Titus} because Fro99er is obvtown, Rileycc is Town and also just no way a partner, Darklyn is Town, and I can't see scum!Jae and scum!Hiraki hard defending me together Day 1. momo because they are null for Jae and rotating a lynchbait Day 1 scumread up to null is risky but by no means out of the question. GC because lurksack, missing from Jae's second readslist but townlean in the first.

C. because Grendel scum, GC lurksack, Hiraki defending me Day 1 while posturing on the hammer and generally none of them doing anything all game wrt hunting scum.

[Transcend]

I don't bus.

Why would you say this if you're town

[nancy]

It's true of my meta. If you think I'm scum saying I'm bussing doesn't make sense. If I were scum I wouldn't be bussing because I don't bus.

[JaeReed]

nancy if you're town this game you're trash tier.

[Transcend]

Ok so then you're just scum?

[Transcend]

nancy if you're town this game you're trash tier.

What happened to you wanting to lynch the shit out of me

[Transcend]

The sentence: "i am town because i don't bus" does not make sense.