Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

[nancy]

Riley's case on me is comprehensively bad scumhunting in a tunnel.

[Fro99er]

town or scum bad?

[momo]

Is the Nancy wagon seriously getting frozen again. Congrats to scum. You sure know how to keep yourselves alive.

[Fro99er]

^bus

[nancy]

Town bad unless they have me and everyone here completely fooled.

[momo]

Hate to break it to you my frogbruh, but I don't really believe in bussing.

Busses run over so many frogs

[Fro99er]

frogs have great skeletal systems

[momo]

I can tell by looking at your profile. That frog looks so strong!!!!

[nancy]

Like my TRs are pretty strong. Assuming I'm not wrong on them the PoE right now is just brutal.

Locktown: Fro99er, Jae, Rileycc, Titus, Transcend

Probtown: Darklyn, momo

Scum: GC, Grendel, Hiraki

There just isn't room to move.

Effectively imo if Grendel isn't scum then the team is very likely A or B. Darklyn could be another option as a 3rd to Jae/Titus because I just don't even know why I'm even TRing him anymore. I don't see scum in any other slots right now. That's my PoE.

As for anyone saying I'm lying about my meta, that's just dumb. Jae knows I don't bus and should have confirmed as much by now.

[Fro99er]

We have tall, strong, great, beautiful, skeletal systems! Nothing can penetrate our skeletal systems! We will keep all illegal busses from overtaking our skeletal systems!

[Fro99er]

wait nancy why did Grendel move from town to scum?

[Fro99er]

Nancy thoughts on Grendel plz

He's Town.

[Fro99er]

Short answer? Because Jae has been pushing him as scum.

Not short answer? His thought processes are genuine, if not exactly ones I'd follow and agree with, he's picking on things other people aren't in a meaningful way, rather than just arbitrarily picking on things in order to seem to be busy, he's trying to work with other people and collaborate, he's pushing his ideas actively, he's questioning and checking himself and changing opinions where he finds something at fault, and his interactions with wagons have been good. Some of his content has been iffy, but it mostly just looks like he hasn't been able to get a real feel for the game yet.

[nancy]

Fro99er read my posts.... This has been explained.

Go look at the sequence back ages ago when I first started thinking Titus might be scum. My ISO has all of the explanations of my thought processes. If you need anything more after that feel free to ask.

[Fro99er]

I'm nullish town on grendel

how is he confscum frogger?

remember that time we were scum together. I didn't talk like this as scum

[Fro99er]

Fro99er read my posts.... This has been explained.

Go look at the sequence back ages ago when I first started thinking Titus might be scum. My ISO has all of the explanations of my thought processes. If you need anything more after that feel free to ask.

I'm asking. Where was this

[Fro99er]

well there are two players but they seem a bit too obvious

?

There's a hidden dynamic that's confusing here.

VOTE: Grendel

I think this should get pressure too.

oh I missed this

sorry nancy

[nancy]

town!nancy who doesn't want to confbias her read does so by re-evalling Jae.

Not by lynching someone she thinks is town.

"I am afraid of accidentally lynching town that I think is scum, so I am going to... purposely lynch town I think is town". That is absurd logic used to rationalize your scummy push, the exact same way you've been rationalizing everything else you do this game.

And yes, I agree, if you're scum you'll do anything you can to murder Jae. Like I said, this is exactly what you're doing. You've set up a fake way to "confirm" Jae as a scumlord (of course the part about how a Grendel townflip makes Jae scum is conveniently skipped over) in order to get them lynched. It's even better than just lynching them on the spot, because then you get a free NK and a mislynch on Grendel to go with it.

You can call this confbiasing all you want. I call it calling out your scummy bullshit once and for all. You aren't going to wriggle out of this one like you did D1.

What you're missing here is that in my mind I've already "confirmed" Jae as a scumlord by their behavior towards my slot and Titus's slot. Grendel is only Town because Jae doesn't bus and is pushing him. You're assuming that I'm scum in all of this. You can't see outside of that. I'm considering a world where my read on Jae is wrong and their behavior, while objectively nonsense, is somehow explainable. In that world, Grendel is very likely scum. Look at my stances earlier in the Day for proof. Grendel is a scumread right up until I start reading Titus as scum and the sequence with Jae happens. I have nothing to lose by checking my conf!bias.

[Fro99er]

apparently i'm drunk and iddn't miss that

lmao

[Fro99er]

what if I told you jae is conftown?

[Fro99er]

this is a mason claim

[Fro99er]

if anyone wants to counter claim I welcome it

[nancy]

Essentially why I'm being scumread is for operating without (significant) bias and seriously considering that my reads may be wrong and if they are what my reads should be in that case. This is the same kind of thing that people became paranoid about me for in 1875. My read on you flipped according to whether or not I thought your thing with JJD was scum theater or not.

pedit then I very strongly believe that all 3 scum are in my scumreads and probtowns

[nancy]

The two most likely teams in my mind are {GC, Grendel, Hiraki} and {Darklyn, GC, Grendel}.

[Fro99er]

what 3 scum reads?