In post 11359, Leonshade wrote:Had a scumlean on Skies and a townlean on Nero.
please show your work. I'd like to know what arguments I started that weren't scumhunting that changed your read in this 5 hour period?In post 11381, Leonshade wrote:Fuckkk RC is town and Nero is scum
VOTE: Nero Cain
Nero being scum makes so much sense but I ignored it because ABR flipped town
Im not basing it on readsIn post 11679, Nero Cain wrote:If you are basing my game off of Deathnote why would you say this? Even as scum I had much better reads than the town.In post 11658, Vecna wrote:My current townread of him is under the assumption his scumgame hasnt improved tremendously - AND doesnt improve while the number of ingame days grows larger.
Bullllllshit. Going hmmmm there is an implication that you find something suspicious.In post 11697, Nero Cain wrote:its me thinking about things. I mean scum need exactly 3 mislynches and you going "well ok, thereIn post 11695, Leonshade wrote:Things that make you go hrmmmmm....HASto be 1 scum in my town reads" I know that atleast one of those is town and I'm not exactly sold on Vecna and LUV being scum over bad town so I think its more than reasonable to question it.
Skies was part of my "coasting scum" list before RC replaced in. RC is not lock-town, but at the moment I'm convinced that you're scum and that it makes no sense to bus your buddy when scum is winning so hard. And if RC is scum and pushing a scum wagon on you, where are his buddies on the wagon? The rest of your wagon is me and my lock-town reads.In post 11698, Nero Cain wrote:Why isn't RC in that list of town reads that might be wrong?
No, Nero fits scum who HASN'T been coasting. My point is that if all my townreads were correct, the D1/D2 active players were 100% town. That makes no sense. I think most of them were town, and scum was largely content to watch as the town egos clash and ruin the game, but that Nero was the active scum serving to make town even more conflicted.In post 11701, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:You've realized scum have been coasting but your description of your Nero scum read doesn't fit that description. If you were just able to identify who's been coasting scum so easily, why aren't you pushing them? We aren't in LYLO or MYLO yet so how've come to reevaluate doesn't really make sense to me. All I'm getting is that you're implying Brain's replace out caused this. Also, what's the difference between my behavior and Nero's? I've arguable been just as disruptive.
RC is not 100% town for me. But if all my townreads are correct, then D1 and D2 had literally 100% of the scumteam sitting back and doing nothing.In post 11708, Nero Cain wrote:but I'm not flipping scum. So I don't understand why your RC read won't change when that happens.
Messaging style/length, depth of reasoning that sort of thing.In post 11706, Nero Cain wrote:What exactly are you basing it on then?
Most of Nero's aggression has been directed towards the most widely read players so saying that he's attacking slots playing poorly is just factually incorrect.In post 11686, Leonshade wrote:I don't think you've been scumhunting, I think you've been throwing shade at poorly/weirdly playing townies.
I'd love to hear more about this.In post 11709, Leonshade wrote:active scum serving to make town even more conflicted.
Bolded is exactly my point. You and MathBlade are widely townread players with occasional weird/lynchbaity behavior, and Nero has simply been arguing with you and yelling that you're scum instead of trying to scumhunt.In post 11712, nancy wrote:Leonshade your case on Nero is contrived, you aren't scumhunting you're just trying to find fault with his play and manipulate it into a scumread. I don't buy that you forgot why you were townleaning Nero. I don't buy any of your stances. You haven't been evaluating anything in this game with the slightest degree of genuine thought.
In post 11686, Leonshade wrote:I don't think you've been scumhunting, I think you've been throwing shade at poorly/weirdly playing townies.Most of Nero's aggression has been directed towards the most widely read players so saying that he's attacking slots playing poorly is just factually incorrect.
Nero's play has not been great by any means but his exchange with you at least actually displays the desire to analyze what is going on rather than push a narrative.
See above. You're among the very few scumreading Math and nancy. They would be nigh-universal townreads without you. I think only Ali has been scumreading nancy besides you.In post 11714, Nero Cain wrote:I'd love to hear more about this.In post 11709, Leonshade wrote:active scum serving to make town even more conflicted.
It doesn't but I don't see why town doesn't push coasting scum here. We need a flip. Any scum flip would be helpful at this point.In post 11709, Leonshade wrote:No, Nero fits scum who HASN'T been coasting. My point is that if all my townreads were correct, the D1/D2 active players were 100% town. That makes no sense. I think most of them were town, and scum was largely content to watch as the town egos clash and ruin the game, but that Nero was the active scum serving to make town even more conflicted.In post 11701, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:You've realized scum have been coasting but your description of your Nero scum read doesn't fit that description. If you were just able to identify who's been coasting scum so easily, why aren't you pushing them? We aren't in LYLO or MYLO yet so how've come to reevaluate doesn't really make sense to me. All I'm getting is that you're implying Brain's replace out caused this. Also, what's the difference between my behavior and Nero's? I've arguable been just as disruptive.
Going back to read takes a lot of time, and Nero's reactions today have already convinced me that he's scum. I'm willing to make the time to case him if that's what it takes to get him lynched.
In post 11314, Vecna wrote:the Caesar slot has 72 real life hours remaining to meet the demands for in depth reasoning over his reads. Failing this, this vote shall be permanent for the remainder of the game, or untill either me or he has been killed. This is not a bluff.
VOTE: caesar