Mini 1891: Fat Boy Mafia [Over]

[implosion]

Okay, I dunno, I'm kinda confused now. Implosion and Fire are town for me. I'm not really sure about desperado and twoface. Null to town I would say with some weird posts in between.

Pieg I was and still am reading as scum. Nos seems scummy weird as well with the 180 and his explanation for it. Wheme off late seems weird. Persivul seems okay but I did read him as weird at a point-I'm not sure now. Massive seems okay, dunno what to make of pine. Alisae seemed weird at the begining but her last reads list was okay but I did read grey as scummy with that interaction so not sure. Darklyn hasn't said anything, neither did prana except for that one weird reads list post.

yeah okay i'm willing to vote alz. This post is terrible. He describes things as weird six fucking times. If he's town he should be a lot more clear with his stances than this, it reads like he's trying to look like committing to a bunch of reads (which, pieg is right, are pretty coincidentally incident to majority opinion) without actually giving any degree of nuance or analysis or like. idk. this is just so bleh. pieg/nos as scum, me/fire town, and most of the rest of the player list as either "idk" or varying qualifiers of weird. That's like the easiest reads list in the world to give as scum.

[Firebringer]

darklyn can you stop voting yourself?

[implosion]

VOTE: Alz
darklyn should go back to this as well
i'd also like alisae to justify why he thinks the frustration from darklyn is more likely to come from scum but i'm more interested in what pine has to say.

[implosion]

Can't really figure out where my gut alz townread was coming from anymore. Didn't read that much because i'm tired though.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

LOL

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Can't talk right now but lmfao I join the game and someone get's to L-1 in my presence

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

[Persivul]

Why?

Feel like he would be defending himself a lot more if he was scum

Wouldn't newbie scum panick and defend himself a lot

Feel like you're just parroting what I said about you.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Implosion, why do you town read Dark? I don't see a reason.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I also ask you, what has that slot done to further the game along in a pro-town manner?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Last also is wondering why you chose to engage in Pine and Alisae instead of me who is the main force behind this wagon you have distaste for

[Pine]

That selfvote is pretty shit. I think the odds that it's an intentional ploy are probably really really low, which leaves that he's scum giving up which is no more particularly likely than that he's town giving up. Which isn't to say that he's town, just to say that he's a mediocre lynch. At least from a hitting scum perspective. The only real explicit scum motivation for that vote is if he's trying to garner towncred and it + the rest of his iso really does not scream to me that he's the kind of player to do that.

I agree with pieg that pine's vote is pretty bad. Alisae's is also but not as much. I can see the visceral this-is-obvscum vote a minute after the selfvote as coming from town. Pine calling him newbie scum is just so 1-dimensional of an approach to the game. I'd like pine to clarify whether he thinks darklyn is newbie scum giving up and why that's more likely than newbie town giving up (really i'd just like him to cut the bullshit and use words but sigh).

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

lol Pine, can't you use MS paint

[implosion]

Implosion, why do you town read Dark? I don't see a reason.

I don't (and I'd prefer his lynch over whemes if it comes down to it) but I think the latter half of the wagon on him is bad. I didn't mind the first half as a pressure wagon but he hasn't done anything particularly scum indicative so I'd much rather lynch someone who I think is readable right now and sort him later.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Ah but that's where you're wrong. He's posted, shown that he's been on, yet, has done nothing. One of the hardest things to learn as scum is how to argue and fake shit. He simply can't do those things.

When he does post, he'll make jokes because jokes don't require fluent lying. They're just jokes.

Also, if he's one to self-vote and not do anything

if

he's town, then he should replace out as he stated he couldn't be assed to do anything.

Especially considering he's a replacement for this game, it goes to show that he really wanted to play this game and took the first chance he had. Now he doesn't know what to do because scum.

[implosion]

Except in practice, all of those things can be indicative of new town caught out of their depth as well. The fact that he replaced in is a decent point though him replacing in doesn't necessarily imply that he specifically had a high desire to play this game. If he's not going to do anything then I would certainly agree that he should replace out.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

If he's scum, you're town.

If he's town, I have no conclusion on you.

As of right now, I don't see you as being a scum partner defending a scum slot that was playing that badly.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

If scum, massive looks scummy, really his vote in general seemed overdramatized

[Alisae]

Implosion the frustration is scummy rather then towny because it looks like newb scum caught for the wrong reasons.

[Desperado]

@ gin: why was prana's opening town but darklyn's is scum?

[Desperado]

VOTE: Aliz by far my first choice today, all his posts are cautious and non-committal

pieg, Alisae, Firebringer and TheRealGin-N-Tonic are all obvtown

Leaning town for Desperado and Nosferatu

Never played with Persivul or Pine before and their play didn't really stick out to me... null

I'm going back and forth on Wheme being scum or town with no motivation

scumleaning massive, his 729 post is just awful and shady

like this post is clearly doing things and trying to move the game forward in a pro-town manner

you didn't engage any of his reads beyond the one on yourself

and are now acting like this post doesn't exist

what's up with that?

[Desperado]

unvote
vote: alz

[Persivul]

VOTE: Aliz by far my first choice today, all his posts are cautious and non-committal

pieg, Alisae, Firebringer and TheRealGin-N-Tonic are all obvtown

Leaning town for Desperado and Nosferatu

Never played with Persivul or Pine before and their play didn't really stick out to me... null

I'm going back and forth on Wheme being scum or town with no motivation

scumleaning massive, his 729 post is just awful and shady

like this post is clearly doing things and trying to move the game forward in a pro-town manner

you didn't engage any of his reads beyond the one on yourself

and are now acting like this post doesn't exist

what's up with that?

First, consider the timing - this post came shortly after I called for a wagon. Prior to that we got nothing.

Second, this is really vague stuff. Only two people got reasons of any sort, and those were just "cautious and non-committal" and "his 729 post is just awful and shady."

It's pretty underwhelming and could easily be scum seeing my vote and trying to head off trouble.

[Desperado]

Please contribute more, your doing less then me.

I won't be able to post for the next 4 hours, at work

Alright let me read the game

VOTE: Aliz by far my first choice today, all his posts are cautious and non-committal

pieg, Alisae, Firebringer and TheRealGin-N-Tonic are all obvtown

Leaning town for Desperado and Nosferatu

Never played with Persivul or Pine before and their play didn't really stick out to me... null

I'm going back and forth on Wheme being scum or town with no motivation

scumleaning massive, his 729 post is just awful and shady

[Darklyn]

VOTE: alz just gonna pop this here and make a swift exit