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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:08 am

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In post 1971, Keyser Söze wrote:Wraith and LUV, full claim time.

No voting. Two scum factions still alive.
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:09 am

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My three cards were one-shot townie, supersaint, and hider.

I discarded hider.

And then I got supersaint.

If you read RC's iso, he claims supersaint. Then he realizes what dumb move that is. Because he claimed supersaint D-1, he realized scum would not hammer him. So he changed his claim, hoping for a scum hammer that never came. I am a supersaint. RC changed claim for reason stated above.
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:29 am

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He also said he used doctor as his alignment card...
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:33 am

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One-shot Townie (If alive at the start of Day 2, turns into a Survivor)...

So you're a survivor now?
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:34 am

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In post 1972, Wraith wrote:I want momo dead

I'm a One-Shot Gladiator.
Could you lay out your reasoning or link the post for me that states it?
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:37 am

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In post 1976, momo wrote:My three cards were one-shot townie, supersaint, and hider.

I discarded hider.

And then I got supersaint.
This can die.

VOTE: momo

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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:38 am

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In post 1977, Keyser Söze wrote:He also said he used doctor as his alignment card...
Duh, rather obvious why he'd lie about his alignment card.
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:43 am

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Not "Duh", I was highlighting the contradiction of that slot's continuous ever-evolving claims.

Even if we lynch a probable-survivor, groupscum factions will win (who have night kill ability).


momo/Drixx ideally should have been the NK's last night.


@Grey - unvote, otherwise I will take that as a scumclaim.
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:46 am

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In post 1982, Keyser Söze wrote:@Grey - unvote, otherwise I will take that as a scumclaim.
I'm past the point of caring.

Scum is you, LUV, and Momo.

Of the three of you, only momo can be lynched anyway.

This is already a scum win. The only reason the game is ongoing is to find out which faction.

So you can do the posturing.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:50 am

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In post 1979, Skybird wrote:
In post 1972, Wraith wrote:I want momo dead

I'm a One-Shot Gladiator.
Could you lay out your reasoning or link the post for me that states it?
RC was being scummy and his claims (discarded Hider, alignment card Doctor) were very questionable, so pressure swung to him. Then he repeatedly lied and fakeclaimed in increasingly desperate gambits to shift the pressure back to myself or Grey. Then momo replaced into the slot, didn't immediately claim all cards when asked and instead asked for info regarding the setup/claim matrix - slimy a reason for a scumread as that might be, to scumread a replacement player for asking for setup context, considering RC's previous play it reeked to me of scum caught out and needing time and context for a fakeclaim.

And now momo claims One-Shot Townie as his alignment card. Why would RC originally lie about his alignment card being (Town) Doctor? IIRC even RC never wavered that his alignment card was Doctor. So I'm calling this bluff once and for all.

I'm willing to hammer momo to take the bullet in case he and RC weren't bluffing all along, as I said way back when. But if we don't lynch him today and there isn't a plausible alternative lynch advanced, and I'm still alive by nightfall, I will ensure momo is one of the only options tomorrow.
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:56 am

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Keyser, your turn to claim.

If Drixx got no result then clearly someone is lying. Either there's a roleblocker still out there who blocked him, Drixx is lying about his role, or LUV is non-Mafia scum.

I'm choosing to trust Grey implicitly at this point. If I'm wrong we've lost, but it's already a huge longshot at best. So I'm not going to waste time and energy second-guessing myself about Grey and I'm going to focus on everyone else.
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:57 am

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@Grey
There are two NK-ability scum factions.
momo's slot is scum... we can't trust 100% what he says, but he is scum.
Town is likely me + at least TWO other slots.
If you are town, play pro-town TODAY.
Unvote and let's work through the information infront of us.

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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:07 am

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2 scum faction kills N2.
No factional kills from scum N1.
We must thus return back to RC/momo (roleblocked N1) and Drixx (visited Grey N1).
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:25 am

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Anyone have ideas how town/scum would/should use One-Shot Governor at MYLO/LYLO?
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:35 am

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Bah post is here. Bye everyone and GL
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:08 am

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In post 1988, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyone have ideas how town/scum would/should use One-Shot Governor at MYLO/LYLO?
I don't think it would work. If LUV used his ability to save a scumbuddy that would be a scumclaim and he'd be promptly lynched. So at this point it's of dubious use.
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:09 am

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That said just just from PoE, claim plausibility, and his hardcore D2 lurking, I personally believe LUV is scum. momo is also scum.

It's debatable to me whether or not Keyser is scum. I certainly don't want to lynch him today compared to momo or LUV.
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:21 am

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Which alignment card?
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:53 am

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In post 1969, Skybird wrote:That answers one of my questions anyway. (I was doubting Wheme was town.)

@Drixx, why target LUV? I checked your ISO and you hasn't mentioned anything about leaning scum on him.

I'm leaning scum on Grey. As I am re-reading, the feeling I am getting is he's all over the place and he jumps from one person to the next very quickly. It just seems like his posting is a massive bowl of WIFOM.

PSA: I'm sick right now. I'm posting at 2:45 am my time because this is when my fever broke. :( I'm staying home from work today so whenever the fever is down, I'll check in and post more/read the game.
Between the two slots who needed clearing up due to ignoring the requests to full claim, LUV was the one who I was more concerned with.
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:57 am

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Also that 1-shot townie claim is horrible. That's scum and not a survivor. There's no way. It fits with things RC said too. RC is good enough as scum to use the truth whenever he possibly can, so that line about not having targeted due to the gambit -Grey- is almost certainly a true explanation of why he didn't kill anyone night one.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:11 am

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In post 1985, Wraith wrote:If Drixx got no result then clearly someone is lying.
Town Roleblocker flipped last night.
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:13 am

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I am town.
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:13 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:17 am

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You know what. Scum I am talking to you. Guys put me at L-1 and wait for a scum hammer. If I go down, scum is going with me.
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:31 am

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You realize that you contradicted your slot's previous claim for card used for role, right? You also realize that 1-shot townie turns into a survivor right? Ergo you cannot possibly be town and it seems much more likely you are scum. You are doubling down on the supersaint claim to scare us away from lynching you.
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