Mini 1894: DBZ Abridged Mafia - Arrival To Namek (Game Over)

[Alisae]

ABR what do you think of Socrates?

[Socrates]

I need to learn how to read. Give me a second.
/me takes a second.
Kay heres the thing. I don't think scum!NC gets anything out of writing that post. Granted town!NC gets nothing out of it either. Like that post seems really NAI to me. Especially considering it's page 1, we're still in RVS, so I don't really see how they're trying to prevent scumhunting from happening on page 1?
I feel like if anything scum are most likely to jump on that post rather then town.

You'll note that I didn't immediately jump on her, but asked her to elaborate. If she said it was just a first page joke, I would have shrugged and let it go, but she didn't and went with the classic "scum can manipulate this mechanic so we shouldn't use it" argument that scum themselves love to make. They love to make the same argument about masslcaims and such, too.

As I said, it wasnt the full tell, because they didn't check the final checkbox of calling it outright scummy, but I feel better about this vote than anywhere else at this moment.

I've caught scum this way before.

[Socrates]

Any simplistic wand-waving ball policy proposal the kind of which Almost50 made is almost assuredly made by scum.

Should I be voting him instead of NC?

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Almost50

[Desperado]

i'd love to vote almost but this post

@Tywin: I'm trying to give you all the slack you need to rectify your play in hopes you're not yet tuned in, but then I'll have to come down on you real hard if that doesn't change soon.

Hint: reread the thread. Now tell me what you missed.

Why are you making me read RVS? I usually don't start paying attention until after.

The thing is you addressed both mine and Alisae's vote on you. but totally ignored Vifam's. Since we just finished a game where you were scum, and I partially caught you by noticing you neither voted nor got voted by your scum partners, I was wondering if Vifam (who was also in that game) tried to change that and you missed his gesture. It's a 50-50, but you'd have to admit it's strange you didn't even say hello to the guy who put the 3rd vote on you.

isn't made by scum

unvote
vote: ABR

[Majiffy]

I don't see why it can't be.

And the rest of Almost's posts suck.

[Desperado]

the scumhunting looks too genuine to come from scum

[Majiffy]

It's a pretty garbage argument, especially considering it implies that the person he voted in RVS is now a scumread with Vifam and he later unvoted.

[Alisae]

hmmmm...
UNVOTE:
I'm reading that as genuine as well.

Jiffy why do Almost posts suck?
Desperado why doesn't scum make that post?

[Majiffy]

They internally rustle my jimmies.


It's probably personality but I don't want it in the game.

[Desperado]

It's a pretty garbage argument, especially considering it implies that the person he voted in RVS is now a scumread with Vifam and he later unvoted.

i'm not concerned with the validity of the argument

@ alisae literally just answered that question

[Majiffy]

hmmmm...
UNVOTE:

I'm reading that as genuine as well.

Jiffy why do Almost posts suck?

Desperado why doesn't scum make that post?

The fuck is this

[Majiffy]

It's a pretty garbage argument, especially considering it implies that the person he voted in RVS is now a scumread with Vifam and he later unvoted.

i'm not concerned with the validity of the argument

@ alisae literally just answered that question

Then you're going to have to unpack what you mean by genuine, because it looks like a hand-wavey dogwhistle for "gut and I don't really have an answer".

[Alisae]

hmmmm...
UNVOTE:

I'm reading that as genuine as well.

Jiffy why do Almost posts suck?

Desperado why doesn't scum make that post?

The fuck is this

For the first bolded I was refering to this:

I need to learn how to read. Give me a second.
/me takes a second.
Kay heres the thing. I don't think scum!NC gets anything out of writing that post. Granted town!NC gets nothing out of it either. Like that post seems really NAI to me. Especially considering it's page 1, we're still in RVS, so I don't really see how they're trying to prevent scumhunting from happening on page 1?
I feel like if anything scum are most likely to jump on that post rather then town.

You'll note that I didn't immediately jump on her, but asked her to elaborate. If she said it was just a first page joke, I would have shrugged and let it go, but she didn't and went with the classic "scum can manipulate this mechanic so we shouldn't use it" argument that scum themselves love to make. They love to make the same argument about masslcaims and such, too.

As I said, it wasnt the full tell, because they didn't check the final checkbox of calling it outright scummy, but I feel better about this vote than anywhere else at this moment.

I've caught scum this way before.

I like this thought process. It shows I'm not really paying much attention and it's sorta how I would have approached that post if I didn't think it was a shitpost.

[Socrates]

Re: post in question: Not necessarily. It would be easy rhetorical food for him to force a scumread on Tywin, but he chose to back off and look elsewhere. That's what makes it seem genuine.

Incidentally,

vote count

?

[Alisae]

@ alisae literally just answered that question

lmao I am so bad at reading give me a moment.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Any simplistic wand-waving ball policy proposal the kind of which Almost50 made is almost assuredly made by scum.

Should I be voting him instead of NC?

Yes, I'm moderately confident that he is scum.

[Socrates]

Any simplistic wand-waving ball policy proposal the kind of which Almost50 made is almost assuredly made by scum.

Should I be voting him instead of NC?

Yes, I'm moderately confident that he is scum.

Cool. I still want a vote count.

I see where you're coming from, do you see where I'm coming from? or am I barking up the wrong tree?

[Vifam]

I don't really care about the ball mechanics.
I don't see why everyone else is tbh.

I thought you could autowin with em but I guess not

[Majiffy]

Re: post in question: Not necessarily. It would be easy rhetorical food for him to force a scumread on Tywin, but he chose to back off and look elsewhere. That's what makes it seem genuine.

See that just strikes me as

less

genuine.

[Desperado]

Re: post in question: Not necessarily. It would be easy rhetorical food for him to force a scumread on Tywin, but he chose to back off and look elsewhere. That's what makes it seem genuine.

Incidentally,

vote count

?

I don't agree that it easy at all. there was a level of sophistication to the read that is difficult to fake for anyone and it's not like almost could have planned to scumread tywin for that exact thing pregame; if they had I would have expected something less fully formed.

[Imperium]

@Kuroi: Can the transfer of balls be roleblocked?

[Imperium]

If I do it in public, scum will kill me to get what I have. If I do it in secrecy it reduces the chance of me getting NK'd but the Town will not know whom to pass the balls to in order to get them all in one place.

You're right that coordination will be more difficult for town than scum.

[Almost50]

I don't really care about the ball mechanics.
I don't see why everyone else is tbh.

I thought you could autowin with em but I guess not

Autowin? How??

Here's what we know:

You can ONLY wish for someone to be resurrected, unless your Role PM specifies otherwise.

So, for "most" players it's just bringing back one of the dead. Adding one more Townie doesn't necessarily "autowin" you the game, but adding a scumster may do in LyLo (which is why your "autowin" caught my attention).

Now, I assume there ARE one or two players who could wish for a different thing, and it might be the case that they could autowin with it.

From this, for you to assume an autowin means you're either Scum or 3P. Now which is it?

P.S. Knowing Vifam, he probably didn't think it over before he posted in that specific manner, so I'm willing to let it slide but with note.

@Vifam: THIS is why you get scum read and eventually mislynched, my friend. Don't take it as an attack on your playstyle, but rather a friendly remark. It helps A LOT when you do the Alert!Vifam I saw twice than the I'm-not-paying-much-attention!Vifam that I also saw twice so far. This will be the end of it and I'm going to play the game like I don't know you from now on. OK? OK.

[Alisae]

Almost attacking Vifam for that post here doesn't really sit right with me.
Seems uncalled for if anything.