Micro 691: Just Mafia (Game Over)

[horrordude0215]

I was going to go through his ISO and put a case on him, but looking through it I can see that literally the only thing that he has done all day has been tunneling AJ, the easiest target in the game thus far.

Tenshii/Hiraki GGA.

[Aj The Epic]

Max, you're seriously needed.

I don't see any reason to keep Tenshii here.

[Tenshii]

I'm a watcher.

Idk if horrordude is scum anymore.

[Tenshii]

Claim: Watcher

[Tenshii]

Actually nvm I change my mind he's scum.

[Sobolev Space]

How reasonable is a tracker/watcher setup? I was assuming one of y'all was like cop or something.

[Aj The Epic]

9 man game, normally 2 scum. You can't double investigate+ protective. There's a liar somewhere.

[Tenshii]

I didn't want to full claim because I thought watching LuV would have been a sick play

[Tenshii]

How reasonable is a tracker/watcher setup? I was assuming one of y'all was like cop or something.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Twin_Trap

I know that this is a setup. But I'm inclined to think that Umlaut wouldn't use an Open.

[Sobolev Space]

AJ I'm deferring to your judgement here. My vote stands.

[Sobolev Space]

@Tenshii - yeah but we also have a protective PR so it can't be that setup

[horrordude0215]

Tracker/Watcher/Doc Type Role wouldn't be completely out of the realm of imagination

if

scum have some PR to counter it.

I still want a Hiraki lynch over anyone else tbh. But if it's me vs. Tenshii, it forces my hand.

[Tenshii]

I think it's likely scum have visiting roles. Like roleblocker or strongman.

[Tenshii]

Tracker/Watcher/Doc Type Role wouldn't be completely out of the realm of imagination if scum have some PR to counter it.

If there are 3 PRs, what PR(s) would scum have to counter it?

[Aj The Epic]

Like it's actually atrocious that Max and Darklyn haven't made it to take part in this whatsoever.

There's 0 world where three PRs of this type exist together. One person here (LuV, Horror, Tenshii) IS scum, it's just a matter of who.

I'm not sure if it makes sense to leave all alive. We end up with most dangerous player dead, and a scum/town 50:50.... The only real benefit is if Luv isn't scum and they don't target him, he can make a save on the town inv. role.

[Tenshii]

Am I naive or is it safe to assume that there are only 2 mafia?

[Tenshii]

Wait what if we did a PR circle?

LuV saves Horrordude > Horrordude tracks Tenshii > Tenshii watches LuV?

[horrordude0215]

Tracker/Watcher/Doc Type Role wouldn't be completely out of the realm of imagination if scum have some PR to counter it.

If there are 3 PRs, what PR(s) would scum have to counter it?

Ninja is the only thing I can think of off the top of my head.

[Tenshii]

Wait what if we did a PR circle?

LuV saves Horrordude > Horrordude tracks Tenshii > Tenshii watches LuV?

Actually nvm this probably has counterplay if there is scum inside or outside the circle

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Tenshii is town. I saw him crumb.

[Aj The Epic]

It's safe to assume 2 scum. Otherwise, standard D2 is lylo. (Games assume town lynch D1 for reference, so it'd be 6:3 -> Mislynch 5:3 -> Nightkill 4:3 D2.

Most of the time 5:2 makes more sense for D2, putting a first lylo in D3.

[Aj The Epic]

Wait what if we did a PR circle?

LuV saves Horrordude > Horrordude tracks Tenshii > Tenshii watches LuV?

Actually nvm this probably has counterplay if there is scum inside or outside the circle

Yeah scum almost certainly possess a proactive counter in roleblocker/rolestopper.

[Tenshii]

Unless somebody can justify 3 PRs, I'm inclined to think horrordude is scum.

[Tenshii]

Are there setups where there are blatantly more town PRs than scum can handle because the aspect of town PRs doubting each other comes into play?

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah it's almost universal that town will have more PRs by about double.