And let me tell you this. I caught wind of you playing in other games. The rule about talking about ongoing games prevents me from commenting on anything about them, obviously (aside from me mentioning that I have seen you in other games).In post 1209, DogWatch wrote:actually considering quitting mafia period, all it does is add stress to my life. It's not fun anymore. and most of this community is completely toxic anyway... seriously some of the worst human beings ive ever interacted with
But what I
can
tell you is to please have faith. There are some awful people in games, yes. Those are the types of players I honestly tend to avoid as much as I can. There are certain lines I do not cross. I always try to treat a player with respect. I avoid namecalling. I avoid insulting. I avoid calling them out on shit which is not likely to be alignment-indicative. (*coughIcecough*) And there are many more like me.And outside of games. Outside of games, we are really wonderful people by and large. This community is really supportive--one of THE most supportive communities I've ever been in. I know, that sounds hard to believe, if you've been hanging around inside a game. But think about outside the game. For instance, the Speakeasy (you have to request access in the User Control Panel) is filled to the brim with a ton of people who are loving and caring. (Admittedly it's also filled with shitposting, but people who insult others quickly eat a ban in there and for damn good reason.)
And if that's not viable, if that's not what I promise it to be (admittedly I view a lot of the site through rose-tinted glasses thanks to being a long-time member and I've seen it at its best and worst but tend to filter out the bad and emphasize the good), then there's always the ridiculously fun and open and supportive other games forum. Many, many, MANY scummers have stopped playing mafia but hung around the site. Some exclusively in discussion forums, others near-exclusively as Mish Mash players and I'd highly recommend giving it a chance.
mafiascum is not a cesspool of hatred. Some users may give off the impression it is--and those users tend to quickly find out that they are not thought of too highly for their toxicity and tend to either change their attitude or ragequit or end up banned because they didn't. (Not that those latter two are mutually exclusive.) We are mostly nice people.
We are also just...very, very, very passionate people. And sometimes, our passion leads us to be emotional and when we're emotional we tend to have a slight insensitivity to other people's emotions which leads to a nasty cycle. But that's hopefully when a moderator steps in to resolve a dispute because that's the fucking job of a moderator. Providing votecounts and flips is easy but a computer can do that much. A computer can't automatically handle a volatile dispute the way a mod can.
Give it time. We have the potential, I promise we do.
). I liked his play d1 when he was under pressure, and I don't know why RC didn't read the town vibes. I think the best way to find town on day one is to wagon people and see how they react, the tone and attitude usually goes a long way to helping narrow the scumpool down. From the outside the interaction seemed TvT to me (another reason I townread the Ali/RC slot - not just Ali, but RC too, the slot has been towning it up). You seem to be saying here that ignoring Smith's reasons for why you and GreyTBslot cannot be scum together contradicts my respect for him. Here is his read on the situation:
