Mini 1889: Greatest Idea Mafia (Endgame!)

[-Grey-]

I'm starting to get a little tickle at the back of my brain that says you might be running the pushes on me as a gambit to pocket me.

See, this kind of stuff makes no sense considering you've pretty much been calling me lock town for... how long now?

Why in the hell would you think I'd bother running a gambit to pocket somebody that's already there?!

[-Grey-]

Also ... stop fucking with me -Grey-. I got shit to do, and mind games with -Grey- isn't on the schedule for today.

No mind games here, bruh. Just catching scum and eating corn flakes.

[-Grey-]

2.) Scum ignore me and

eventually

paranoia wins out and you all lynch me

That's the key word. Eventually.

With a maximum of three scum remaining, we don't have a whole lot of eventually left.

If you want to vote Wheme, vote Wheme. I'm not stopping you.

[-Grey-]

very few players can WIFOM as effectively as they think

Heh heh heh.

I straight up called out my partner in LyLo and town refused to Lynch him.

[-Grey-]

UNVOTE:

I could vote uhhhh... probably Uzi, maybe? Still think the RC slot is good for a death, but I'd rather it be vigged because duh, no way scum will hammer it.

[-Grey-]

You don't want me to use my ability because l may hit town but you want vigi to shoot RC slot

Yes. That is correct.

RC slot has claimed themselves into an unlynchable position, and that is the only effective counter...

ACTUALLY!

Wheme, would you be willing to target Keyser? He's too much of a wild card given his scummy play, but his posts have been pro-town.

I'd hate to lose his voice if he's actually town, and he's not using his fucking vote anyway so the loss is minimal.

[-Grey-]

Interesting.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: WhemeStar

I'm good with this dying and Keyser being vigged.

[-Grey-]

For somebody that's so interested in using his bloodsucker shot, he refuses to use it in the objectively towniest way.

He's scum refusing to neutralize his buddy.

[-Grey-]

Why would I kill someone because their a wild card. I'm not going to remove their vote and night action when I don't scumread them

That's a load of bullshit, because that's exactly what you did n1.

[-Grey-]

Keyser has no claimed night actions
Keyser has not voted once

NO EXCUSES, you're just scum.

[-Grey-]

I read boring as null-scum, and he flipped town. Not going to do it to keyser just because he isn't voting

You aren't doing it to anyone.

You die today.

[-Grey-]

You're supposed to not care, remember?

You're supposed to be fed up with my arguments and done with the game, remember?

Funny how your apathy gambit flies out the window when it doesn't work.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: WhemeStar

I'm good with this dying and Keyser being vigged.

Him or LUV?

Keyser.

If Wheme flips scum, Keyser.

If Wheme flips town, RC.

That actually seems to make the most sense. Let's get more input.

[-Grey-]

Grey your really not fun to play with you know that?

When you get posts like 953 directed at you, then you can talk to me about not having fun sport.

[-Grey-]

Do you ever think the things you post cause people to say things like that?

False.

People are responsible for their own actions. There is no causing others to break site rules.

[-Grey-]

The only thing we need contributed is discussion on the vig shot and a hammer.

[-Grey-]

You can't be the bigger person then and ignore RC when he posted that?

Read the game, Wheme.

I did. He continued.

[-Grey-]

The only thing we need contributed is discussion on the vig shot and a hammer.

I'm willing to vig between {Keyser, LUV and Momo}

I think scum is probably in those three players.

If Wheme is town, RC has been pied pipering him.

[-Grey-]

Cool.

Wheme is town.

VOTE: ThinkBig

Sorry bud, needed to be sure due to your role.

[-Grey-]

And grey you better not say anything about why he should vig them

Chill out bro, I'm letting you do your thing.

[-Grey-]

Bye then.

Kind of a nihilistic attitude when towning up would have gotten me to move my vote.

[-Grey-]

Yup.

[-Grey-]

I'm just so sick and tired of this site

Well you can't really claim I was tunneling you.

And you can't really say I would never unvote you.

Considering the guy I was on before you...

I was tunneled on...

And unvoted him.

[-Grey-]

I'm just so sick and tired of this site

Well you can't really claim I was tunneling you.

And you can't really say I would never unvote you.

Considering the guy I was on before you...

I was tunneled on...

And unvoted him.

I still have no idea what I did wrong, besides my hammer on myself.

This particular game it seemed to be a counterwagon battle.

I wanted to see productivity out of you, and to judge anyone that hammered opportunistically.

Then you did.

[-Grey-]

I'm just so sick and tired of this site

Well you can't really claim I was tunneling you.

And you can't really say I would never unvote you.

Considering the guy I was on before you...

I was tunneled on...

And unvoted him.

I still have no idea what I did wrong, besides my hammer on myself.

This particular game it seemed to be a counterwagon battle.

I wanted to see productivity out of you, and to judge anyone that hammered opportunistically.

Then you did.

Don't know what you mean by productivity?

Also why is star suddenly town?

Wouldn't surprise me if massive/KS/LUV are scum just sittting back and watching town destroy itself

I'm toying with a Keyser/ LUV team.

Which is why I want Keyser targeted at night.

Because he claimed he can't be lynched.

Which is scum utility.

[-Grey-]

I'm just so sick and tired of this site

Well you can't really claim I was tunneling you.

And you can't really say I would never unvote you.

Considering the guy I was on before you...

I was tunneled on...

And unvoted him.

I still have no idea what I did wrong, besides my hammer on myself.

This particular game it seemed to be a counterwagon battle.

I wanted to see productivity out of you, and to judge anyone that hammered opportunistically.

Then you did.

Don't know what you mean by productivity?

Also why is star suddenly town?

Wouldn't surprise me if massive/KS/LUV are scum just sittting back and watching town destroy itself

I'm toying with a Keyser/ LUV team.

Which is why I want Keyser targeted at night.

Because he claimed he can't be lynched.

Which is scum utility.

So why did you put me at L-1 instead of letting me vig him?

Better question: why did you not talk

before

your self-hammer?

[-Grey-]

Kinda shocked I didn't get stumped tbh.

Wheme was kinda grudging on me.

[-Grey-]

I'm leaning scum on Grey. As I am re-reading, the feeling I am getting is he's all over the place and he jumps from one person to the next very quickly. It just seems like his posting is a massive bowl of WIFOM.

If you think this is something, you should scan my ISO in

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=70493

I'm not the towniest town that ever towned.

[-Grey-]

My three cards were one-shot townie, supersaint, and hider.

I discarded hider.

And then I got supersaint.

This can die.

VOTE: momo

Mechanics make him survivor.

[-Grey-]

He also said he used doctor as his alignment card...

Duh, rather obvious why he'd lie about his alignment card.

[-Grey-]

@Grey - unvote, otherwise I will take that as a scumclaim.

I'm past the point of caring.

Scum is you, LUV, and Momo.

Of the three of you, only momo can be lynched anyway.

This is already a scum win. The only reason the game is ongoing is to find out which faction.

So you can do the posturing.

[-Grey-]

If Drixx got no result then clearly someone is lying.

Town Roleblocker flipped last night.

[-Grey-]

UNVOTE:

[-Grey-]

If Drixx got no result then clearly someone is lying.

Town Roleblocker flipped last night.

Why would Town Roleblocker massive Roleblock claimed Town Cop Drixx?

That's why I think there's either another Roleblocker out there and someone fakeclaimed, or Drixx is fakeclaiming.

Or.... maybe massive didn't believe Drixx.

[-Grey-]

I really wish RC had simply claimed that instead of put up that stupid song and dance.

Because I believe it.

[-Grey-]

The thing is, momo, you also win with scum and you don't count towards town's living majority.

[-Grey-]

Powerlynch wraith* but you know what I'm saying.

I'm actually down for this, knowing RC wasn't scum.

[-Grey-]

If we are assuming momo is telling the truth, that means there are still 1-2 scum out of 5 remaining players.

FTFY

I trust the survivor claim.

I want actual scum (sk/mafia/ww/alien).

Knowing now that RC was Survivor, it explains a lot of his actions (including why he replaced out, which was technically strategic because he knew he couldn't win with me scumreading him as I'd eventually get him lynched, but whatever)

Him not being group scum makes his reads sheepable.

[-Grey-]

And also that momo is a much safer lynch than myself if you decide the choice is between the two of us.

The thing is...

that means there are still 2 scum out of 5 remaining players

I think you slipped there, because nobody knows how many non-town there are. Yet, you seem to.

[-Grey-]

There obviously wasn't.

[-Grey-]

There was an understood "at least" there since we know there are at least two scum factions remaining.

2 is the

maximum

"other not-town" with momo being third party.

Not the minimum.

[-Grey-]

???

Two unclaimed kills?

RIGHT!

Two factions. My bad. I always get caught up thinking singleball.

So, we're looking at possible combinations of:

1x group scum + 1x group scum + survivor
1x group scum + sk + survivor
1-2x group scum + fakeclaiming sk (inside RC's wheelhouse)

[-Grey-]

We need to hit the killing Scum today to stay in the game.

[-Grey-]

Wheme being shot makes me want to stretch Keyser's neck, because that's who I was asking him to bloodsuck.

[-Grey-]

Or LUV's, because he conveniently claimed Governor after both town killers died.

[-Grey-]

Lynching momo is game over unless scum crossbills, if he's being honest (which I think he claimed truthfully)

[-Grey-]

VOTE: zefiend

It might have been missed, but Srceenplay was a Lyncher for Transcend, and therefore was removed from the game when Transcend was dayvigged. Speaking of dayvigs...

Mini 1889 Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.11

ɀefiend: massive, -Grey-, RadiantCowbells, Wraith, boring, ɀefiend
Drixx: Lil Uzi Vert

Not voting: alban, Keyser Söze, Drixx, PimHel

Day 1 deadline is 15 March, 2017 at 8:15 AM EDT, or in {(expired on 2017-03-15 08:15:00)}.

There are 11 living players, it takes 6 votes to lynch or no lynch.

NOTES:

Nothing of note right now.

ɀefiend was lynched Day 1. He was a

Jester One-shot Dayvig

. He has achieved his win condition and wins! The game continues with Night 1, which has a deadline of 9 March, 2017 at 11 PM EST, or in (expired on 2017-03-09 23:00:00).

I call shenanigans on the Governor claim.

VOTE: Uzi

[-Grey-]

Can Governor prevent a lynch after hammer?

A Governor is a role that can stop a lynch. This is done by PMing the mod during Twilight to stop the lynch. Many moderators will extend Twilight substantially so as to allow the Governor ample time to make a decision. If the Governor stops a lynch, the Day ends with no one getting lynched.

[-Grey-]

There was less than 15 minutes of twilight on d1.

No fucking way a Governor is in this game.

[-Grey-]

which I took as deliberate

It

was

deliberate.

It's suicide to choose a Lover role in a Greater/est Idea game and I'd never even consider it.

[-Grey-]

Wraith and LUV, full claim time.

No voting. Two scum factions still alive.

I'm a One-Shot Governor.

BUSTED!

[-Grey-]

What, no countdown timer?

Damn, you suck at drama bro.

[-Grey-]

Well, I'm going back afk to watch more Breakout Kings.

Not a bad show.

I'll be back in a day or so. Probably hit the sack after a few more episodes.

G'night.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: Keyser

[-Grey-]

I'm testing all the "nyah nyah, can't lynch me!" claims.

[-Grey-]

I'm not trying to dictate anything. I'm trying to determine who I should cast a vote for now that it looks like Skybird has decline my in-thread mason request. I know my activity has been deplorable but whose wouldn't with the 10+ page argument Grey and RC had? One of my favorite players in boring subbed out and that was the last straw for me. I lost all motivation after that but sadly I still owe it to the rest of you and the mod to make an effort to win. You attempting to paint that as scummy is low.

No, it's really not.

It has become site meta for scum to be useless piles of shit in the early game and them become active in the late game to take it home after town finishes cannibalizing itself.

I want you lynched tomorrow no questions.

[-Grey-]

One reason why Grey is unlikely SK/single NK scum - surely he would have killed N1?

Another reason I'm not scum: no fucking way do I beg to be targeted by investigatives on n1 as scum.

That's common fucking sense.

[-Grey-]

Keyser, hammer momo.

That will lynch the third party and defuse your unlynchable shot. It won't kill you.

[-Grey-]

I expected Unlynchable to work in that if the Unlynchable is hammered it resets the votes and they are no longer a lynch option for the day

@mod: How would Unlynchable work in this game?

If an Unlynchable player hits the lynch threshold, the game progresses as though No Lynch was the choice, and the game goes to Night.

@JerryArr

Does a supersaint hammer bypass unlynchable and governor ?

Do we skip to night phase if a 1 shot unlynchable is hammered?

Re Supersaint:

If a Supersaint is hammered by an Unlynchable or Governed player, the hammerer dies, as it is a kill activated by a lynch

, not itself a lynch.

Re Unlynchable: Yes, see above.

[-Grey-]

Oh derp. Just woke up.

Whatever.

[-Grey-]

LUV needs to hammer momo.

If he won't, he simply gets lynched tomorrow anyway. Assuming there is one.

[-Grey-]

My role, btw, is 2-shot Bulletproof, so there is an outside chance I absorbed both kills n1.

[-Grey-]

The only thing to worry about is why mafia let a town cop live...

Three possibilities jump out at me as most likely:

1) mafia are not in danger of being lynched any time soon regardless of cop results (personal favorite)

2) killing Scum factions are not mafia

3) Drixx is simply lying scum which I've believed from the get but nobody else does.

The fact you're choosing to shade him now simply reinforces number 1 as most likely.

[-Grey-]

K, I'll hammer momo if he gets to L-1.

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UNVOTE:

Get momo to L-1.

[-Grey-]

SuperSaint is a fucking ridiculous power to take as a

Survivor

.

momo is either group scum or fakeclaiming Survivor.

[-Grey-]

I'm still uncomfortable letting an Unlynchable into LyLo

We already in MYLO, too fucking late for policy lynches.

[-Grey-]

SuperSaint is a fucking ridiculous power to take as a

Survivor

.

momo is either group scum or fakeclaiming Survivor.

I have a I go down, you go down with me attitude.

YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE THE ROLE.

PUT THIS SCUM FUCK AT L-1 RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.

[-Grey-]

One more vote, folks.

I'm hammering momo the second he hits L-1.

[-Grey-]

Grey, you are the player least likely to have NK ability.
Why should YOU hammer?

Unless you're willing to, STFU and vote him.

[-Grey-]

I don't really give a damn what you want.

I'm here to kill Scum, not jack off with power roles.

Vote momo.

[-Grey-]

SCUM ISN'T GOING TO HAMMER THE SERIAL KILLER, SO FUCKING VOTE HIM.

[-Grey-]

He has a point

Make LUV hammer momo

If he doesn't it's a scumclaim.

LUV isn't going to hammer momo.

LUV is tomorrow's lynch even before this shit happened.

[-Grey-]

Here's what is:

momo is today's lynch. Period.

I'll either hammer out be the L-1 vote.

If I'm the L-1 vote, the only person I want hammering is {Keyser, LUV}

So... either vote momo, or tell me to.

[-Grey-]

Do what you gotta do.

I'm here to kill Scum.

[-Grey-]

I'm not. I'm killing Scum to prevent two nk's.

[-Grey-]

Momo, i'd hammer myself, not hammer you though.

Then fucking vote him now.

[-Grey-]

Here's what is:

momo is today's lynch. Period.

I'll either hammer or be the L-1 vote.

If I'm the L-1 vote, the only person I want hammering is {Keyser, LUV}

So... either vote momo, or tell me to.

[-Grey-]

SuperSaint is a fucking ridiculous power to take as a

Survivor

.

momo is either group scum or fakeclaiming Survivor.

I have a I go down, you go down with me attitude.

This is a fakeclaim admission.

Anyone that honestly got those cards from their precessor would not be claiming ownership for the strategy in choosing them.

[-Grey-]

You will have to ask RC post game.

Most probably because after he claims, nobody will want to lynch him, increasing his odds of surviving? Think about that.

Bullshit

RC isn't lynchbait.

Hider would have provided him more survivability because he knows how to town hunt and he'd have fished night kills by hiding behind town that wasn't likely to die at night.

You are going down.

[-Grey-]

You will have to ask RC post game.

Most probably because after he claims, nobody will want to lynch him, increasing his odds of surviving? Think about that.

Bullshit

RC isn't lynchbait.

Hider would have provided him more survivability because he knows how to town hunt and he'd have dodged night kills by hiding behind town that wasn't likely to die at night.

You are going down.

Edit.

[-Grey-]

Listen. As a survivor, you want to 100% make sure you are not lynched. That's how you win. Again, I might be wrong, but I am probably right. Ask RC post game.

I don't need to.

I KNOW RC wouldn't give two shits about being lynched as a Survivor.

YOU ask him post-game, because YOU are the one that obviously doesn't know him.

[-Grey-]

You have no fucking say in who votes when, Keyser.

You haven't voted all fucking game so keep your damned mouth shut about those who have.

You're like those fucking hippies that refused to serve but talk shit about veterans.

[-Grey-]

Hell, I'll hammer

Since I'm now more confident than ever momo is scum instead of Survivor, my Gladiate isn't necessary anymore.

UNVOTE:

Day or night Gladiate?

If it's a day action, use it on LUV and Momo, which will make momo the only available lynch.

[-Grey-]

Get back on the wagon please.

You have utility. Scum won't target me again anyway.

[-Grey-]

Also I can't target myself with the Gladiate

LUV & Keyser.

I guarantee they'll both be alive.

[-Grey-]

Drixx, vote momo please.

[-Grey-]

Keyser, get your non-voting ass on momo.

[-Grey-]

I will now start actively VOTING (as more than 1 town/my town reads are reading it as scum-alignment indicative)

Fucking do it then.

[-Grey-]

Pre-cise-ly

[-Grey-]

If Keyser and LUV are both scum, the game is unwinnable for town because momo IS scum. Period.

If there is a town fucking bone between LUV or Keyser, they will put momo at fucking L-1.

[-Grey-]

UNVOTE:

Drixx, unvote momo.


Call Keyser's bluff and take away his excuse to refuse voting momo.

[-Grey-]

Derp.

VOTE: momo

Just woke up. Sigh.

[-Grey-]

Huh? If I'm recalling correctly, that would make you SK.

You're obviously not recalling correctly, then.

Roles are divorced of alignment in Greatest Idea games, which is why WhemeStar was a

Town Bloodsucker

.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: Drixx

[-Grey-]

I'm the one calling shenanigans on the SuperSaint claim.

I'll hammer.

I wasn't Drixx lynched tomorrow.

[-Grey-]

I'm the one calling shenanigans on the SuperSaint claim.

I'll hammer.

I want Drixx lynched tomorrow.

Edit.

[-Grey-]

Actually, I'm done with Drixx dying today tbh.

He's dodging this game.

[-Grey-]

Actually, I'm fine* with Drixx dying today tbh.

He's dodging this game.

[-Grey-]

Guten tag, herr Betelgeuse.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: momo

[-Grey-]

Stopped caring, hence my interest in the hammer.

[-Grey-]

Told y'all fools Drixx was scum.

[-Grey-]

Sorry that I replaced out but I felt like the game was getting too toxic and personal for both me and Grey to stick around.

Considering you're the one that took it there in the first place, that was fair play for you to be the one to replace out.

[-Grey-]

Also, momo, that survivor claim was clever.

No it wasn't. That Survivor claim got him lynched because survivor SuperSaint is a ridiculously stupid combination and RC isn't ridiculously stupid.