Mini 1891: Fat Boy Mafia [Over]

[Firebringer]

So Fire is null-town, but honestly a weak read.

Fire, how well do you think you've been able to grasp Pine's scum meta and philosophy?

I'd rather be a scumread than null town sir.
Can you fit me in your top two scumreads?

[Firebringer]

also fire i just iso'ed you and you spent half the time with wheme as towntown and the other half with him as scum

and persivul's scumconfidence is pretty high so i don't think he'd give a fuck about your scumread on him

You sold me on persivul scum.
Totally cool with pushing that.

VOTE: Persivul

[Desperado]

Wheme star is town.
Persivul might be scum but I am calling wheme town.
Rereading interactions I think all dead people tells me that wheme is a mislynch waiting to happen.
Now I need him to explain himself betterz

no i need you to explain all of this

particularly the 3rd line

[Firebringer]

Wheme star is town.
Persivul might be scum but I am calling wheme town.
Rereading interactions I think all dead people tells me that wheme is a mislynch waiting to happen.
Now I need him to explain himself betterz

no i need you to explain all of this

particularly the 3rd line

Every dead town called wheme town.
You don't kill a player who is townreading you unless you have no better kills.
Pine probably wouldn't kill Alisae either.
So it's not wheme.

[Firebringer]

Also pine interactions with wheme makes me think they weren't aligned.

[Desperado]

pine sheeped "You" on wheme and then jumped off at the first opportunity to the garbage mislynch we ended d1 with

what about that says "not scumbuddies"

[Desperado]

and "every" dead player is two fucking people bro

what the fuck

[Desperado]

one of which was a vig

so you're basically saying because ali said wheme is town and scum killed her wheme can't be scum?

that is...bad.

[Firebringer]

Pine I love you Post restriction

Think scum wheme would make this post then pine reacts like this?

[Desperado]

particularly when wheme on a hypothetical pers/pine/wheme team might as well not have a voice lmao

[Desperado]

i don't see anything that precludes it no

[Firebringer]

How about we push for persivul lynch, if he flips scum we revisit wheme tomorrow?
I know this sounds like lining up lynches but hey I can only work with persivul right now.

[Firebringer]

and "every" dead player is two fucking people bro

what the fuck

Yeah but scum pushed a bad lynch on bad town dark probably knowing he had decent reads but was still easy mislynch and people would ignore his reads.

I don't think we should ignore his reads or Alisae.
I am sorry if that's terrible reasoning.

I think they were both onto something as far as their townreads go.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Basically, Pine is generally very Anti-bussing. He taught me that philosophy, if you want to know the level of anti-bussing, we tried to keep Creature AS SCUM, alive as long as we could until someone faked a guilty.

With wheme, and just sheeping Fire, that tells me Fire might be town as Fire would be the town fall guy mislynch and wheme was the direct mislynch he was sitting on.

Pine would have pushed other wagons if a scum mate was getting run up.

Also with Pine calling Desperado scum, I believe that to be town for the same concept I explained above.

Now, with Alz, an ISO skim told me Pine didn't much really interact with Alz so add to the fact that the Alz wagon formed and Pine didn't sheep it, I'm inclined to think Alz can be scum.

[Firebringer]

one of which was a vig

so you're basically saying because ali said wheme is town and scum killed her wheme can't be scum?

that is...bad.

I mean no, it's not 100% proof at all.
I am more saying "more likely than not scum wouldn't kill their townreads unless they had good reasons for doing so"

So scum could kill Alisae because:
1) didn't think he would be mislynches
2) thought he was power role and wanted it removed
3) had good reads.

Or some combination.

[Firebringer]

With wheme, and just sheeping Fire, that tells me Fire might be town as Fire would be the town fall guy mislynch and wheme was the direct mislynch he was sitting on.

How does that make me town?
Pine didn't vote me all game.
He sheeped me.

I am not a fall guy lol.

[implosion]

i'm inclined to look in {alz, nos, momo} today.

Desperado has been inching further town for a long time. Most of persivul's interactions towards pine I can see either way but i think his initial vote is likely not scum->scum; given that pine was scum faking a post restriction (i assume? since he flipped goon) it seems not prudent as scum to bring up what nexus said in the signup thread that would likely never have been mentioned by anyone else and which basically implied that the restriction was faked. Especially if he's never played with pine before, unless he literally just saw it as pine being dead weight to bus but that seems relatively unlikely.

It will take a lot to sway me on firebringer or gin town. Pieg i could see but not really interested in pursuing atm. Wheme is probably weaker of a townread than those three but i think i've made my opinion on him clear.

[implosion]

Fire, what's your take on alz right now?

[Firebringer]

Gin is pretty obv town right now implosion

[Firebringer]

Fire, what's your take on alz right now?

Null

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Gin is pretty obv town right now implosion

He hasn't played a game with me, it's okay for the scum read.

[implosion]

i may have phrased that poorly, you two are my strongest townreads.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Oh <3

[Desperado]

How about we push for persivul lynch, if he flips scum we revisit wheme tomorrow?
I know this sounds like lining up lynches but hey I can only work with persivul right now.

because i'd feel better about persscum if wheme flips scum first

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

How about we push for persivul lynch, if he flips scum we revisit wheme tomorrow?
I know this sounds like lining up lynches but hey I can only work with persivul right now.

because i'd feel better about persscum if wheme flips scum first

That...won't happen.