Mini 1891: Fat Boy Mafia [Over]

[Firebringer]

you serious?

[pieg]

yes.

tell me if this is an inaccurate summation of your stance on wheme

town, until people start pointing out how shit his play is, at which point scum, then later town again because you don't think pine could fake scumpartner interactions

[Firebringer]

1. you waffled about his meta. you didn't call him town you just said you wouldn't lynch him
2. you haven't done anything except push wheme after desp was already pushing him, so basically nothing
3. i didn't complain about it today or yesterday, and you're misrepping by trying to make it about yesterday because i clearly said you complained about it today which is fucking easy for anyone to do and isn't even in line with your stances when the wagon was happening
4. stating a read is not expressing anything. you asked him a few questions then didn't bother any further and all you seemed to have gotten out of it was that his tone wasn't genuine
5. because i think you're scum and i don't like your interactions with wheme so that wagon helps me sort you obviously

1) I swear I did call him town, and that I wouldn't lynch him. So I don't know how me saying "I am not lynching Pine" is "waffling" in any definition of that word....If you want to say I defended him, yeah thats 100% true.

2) See when you say "except for" you are now moving the goal post. Like is me answering your posts now "Doing nothing"?

3) Ohhh so I complained at day start that Dark was town and shouldn't have been lynched, okay. I misunderstood what you meant previously.

4) So giving an opinion isn't expressing anything? You could say I am a read flip flopper or something but I did express reads and my thoughts, and you even point out i asked questions and tried to analyze them....

5) So you think I buddied wheme as my teammate half the day, then decided to buss him the other half, then I decided going back to buddying him today. Okay. Just want that to be clear, is there anything he has done specifically that makes him scummy alone?

[pieg]

i don't see it in your iso. you interact with him as if he's town without calling him town or not scum. i think you commented once about the post restriction being dumb for scum to do. saying you aren't going to lynch pine d1 isn't a stance on his alignment so much as statement that you're going to forfeit any attempt at properly sorting him

i haven't moved goalposts. doing things is pushing the gamestate forward. idly asking questions and such is not doing things. pushing wagons and hunting is doing things.

blanking stating 'x is scum' is not expressing anything, no. you didn't do anything with your questions and he barely gave you anything and yet now your read has flipped

didn't say you buddied. i think your townread wasn't reasoned out, i think your scumread wasn't reasoned out. (also bussing and distancing are not interchangeable but that's an aside.) what he has done that is scummy is precisely nothing. he hasn't done anything. at all.

[pieg]

blankly stating*

[Firebringer]

okay.....

[Firebringer]

this is a back and forth i want to take no part in, you can continue your push but ill probably ignore your posts tbh.

[pieg]

cool. my vote on you stays.

[pieg]

if you didn't want to deal with my hunting you should've killed me last night

[Firebringer]

So Gin, hows is your doing going?

[pieg]

i wrote this and forgot to post it lol

i'm not completely sold on scum!alz yet and i want way more content before we think about ending the day

Did you not refuse to vote me and push Alz because you had meta on him pretty hard?

no, i didn't vote you because a you wagon wasn't happening whereas an alz wagon was

complaining about the dark wagon even though he said day 1 that he didn't care enough to try to stop it.

didn't you do the exact same thing except actually voted him?

i didn't complain once about the wagon, i just hunted on it

btw dark as long as you keep playing like this you will keep getting lynched like this

it's anti-town and not even good mariar anti-town it's just crap and you're a nuisance to town and a pawn for scum to play with

like i'm saying this with all the love in my heart

please stop playing so intentionally bad like this

like this.

how is this complaining about the dark wagon?

also what happened to your scum read on alz?

i have a scumread on alz so nothing happened to it?

I'm P-sure Alz never posted near the end of the Dark wagon nor has he posted today so how does it change?

is this addressed to me?

[Firebringer]

So Gin, hows is your day doing going?

Fixed

[WhemeStar]

{Ginngie, Wheme, Desperado}
{pieg, Firebringer}
{implosion}
Haven't Even read their posts honestly {Nosferatu, Persivul}
{momo, Alz}

My reads so far.

Why am I up top lol

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Why am I up top lol

850

[WhemeStar]

Oh

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Basically, Pine is generally very Anti-bussing. He taught me that philosophy, if you want to know the level of anti-bussing, we tried to keep Creature AS SCUM, alive as long as we could until someone faked a guilty.

With wheme, and just sheeping Fire, that tells me Fire might be town as Fire would be the town fall guy mislynch and wheme was the direct mislynch he was sitting on.

Pine would have pushed other wagons if a scum mate was getting run up.

Also with Pine calling Desperado scum, I believe that to be town for the same concept I explained above.

Now, with Alz, an ISO skim told me Pine didn't much really interact with Alz so add to the fact that the Alz wagon formed and Pine didn't sheep it, I'm inclined to think Alz can be scum.

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Alz VOTE: good logic bud

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Alz VOTE: good logic bud

FFSSSSS

VOTE: Alz VOTE:

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Alz VOTE: good logic bud

FFSSSSS

VOTE: Alz VOTE:

I hate phone posting so much

VOTE: Alz

Yay

[WhemeStar]

I quit I know 100% I put both tags

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

One more tid bit that I'm noting about Pine is that even tho Pine is Anti-bussing, he does bus occasionally and it's only for tactical bussing, so just in case shit goes hairy but it still looks like a scum win or whatever. Given that it's D1 and Pine wasn't under heat/no threat of being lynched and he was killed, he had no time to prep his reads accordingly to fuck things over.

Therefore I deduce that Pine had no qualms doing his regular voting for mislynches and not pushing scum buds hard or at all really.

Another factor that plays in is that I don't recognize anyone, besides Fire really, that has basically seen, played with, or partaken in all of Pine's scum games as I have (Literally almost everyone, if I'm missing some, lol); So the necessity of changing stances to ward off scum hunting of his was lacking so that's also why I think he just played standard.

[Desperado]

Why am I up top lol

850

but pine didn't follow through, placed the onus on firebringer for that vote, and dropped it for the darklyn lynch lickety split

"pine doesn't bus" only works for people that pine actually votes to completion

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Why am I up top lol

850

but pine didn't follow through, placed the onus on firebringer for that vote, and dropped it for the darklyn lynch lickety split

"pine doesn't bus" only works for people that pine actually votes to completion

1221

[Desperado]

ya i read what you said right before my post

it has no relevance to wheme being scum