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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:24 am

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In post 1399, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1398, Persivul wrote:Maybe because I pushed scum D1 while fire defended said scum, and he doesn't want me around as a reminder of that.
No, I think you were bussing him.
Fire, you're saying you think Persivul is bussing? What posts to you indicate that?
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:25 am

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I think persivul saw pine was being useless partner.
Pressured him, then gave up because no one wanted to lynch him.
That isn't my main reason for scumreading him but I could see that happening.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 1401, Firebringer wrote:I think persivul saw pine was being useless partner.
Pressured him, then gave up because no one wanted to lynch him.
That isn't my main reason for scumreading him but I could see that happening.
What's the main reason then?
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:30 am

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In post 1402, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1401, Firebringer wrote:I think persivul saw pine was being useless partner.
Pressured him, then gave up because no one wanted to lynch him.
That isn't my main reason for scumreading him but I could see that happening.
What's the main reason then?
Read his ISO
The way he talks to people it's just kind of either pointing out obvious stuff, shitting on people, or subtly defending them.

Some areas he does look like he is scum hunting but most it doesn't and his interactions with me day one still left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:33 am

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Show me examples of what you're seeing to see if I can relate to your view.
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:57 am

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In post 1398, Persivul wrote:Maybe because I pushed scum D1 while fire defended said scum, and he doesn't want me around as a reminder of that.
no you didnt

you attacked pieg for townreading pine because your argument was that pine's restriction rendered him unreadable
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:05 am

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Yes, I did. Pine slipped. In the signup thread, mod said there would be no shenanigans. A meme post restriction seems like a shenanigan. Mod said this after the initial game description where it was easy to miss. Why do you ignore that argument?
In post 226, Persivul wrote:
In post 160, Pine wrote:Image
Post restriction is bullshit. Mod said in the signup thread, "I guarantee no shenanigans etc."

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:09 am

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because it's not a real reason and you didn't see it through to completion?

"seems like" =/= "is"

and i was operating under the assumption that pine was faking it to begin with
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:13 am

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I'm more interested in people saying to ignore Pine.

That's Nos and Fire and probs someone else
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:15 am

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In post 1407, Desperado wrote:because it's not a real reason
Yes, it is. There's no town motivation to fake a post restriction. Mod said there would be no shenanigans. The obvious conclusion is that Pine was scum who didn't see mod's statement.
and you didn't see it through to completion?
You don't get every lynch you want either. Check my iso - hundreds of posts after the initial argument and vote I still wanted it.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:22 am

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no, hundreds of posts later you had downgraded it to "no one can get a read off of pine because of the restriction"

and there's definitely potential town motivation to faking a post restriction. unless you'd also argue there's no town motivation to fake hammers, information gambits, or any other example of where people can lie regardless of alignment to gather reactions and build reads
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 1410, Desperado wrote:and there's definitely potential town motivation to faking a post restriction.
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:35 am

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are you suggesting that pine did something as scum that he'd never do as town?
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:39 am

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I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:42 am

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never having seen town do something before doesn't indicate an absence of potential town motivation

you also didn't answer the question. does pine make of a habit of doing things as scum that he wouldn't do as town?
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:45 am

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In post 1413, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6771

Three town fakes different posting restrictions
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:47 am

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Realize how dumb it sounds to say there is potential town motivation in discussion of a slot, in which the action in question, has come from conf!scum...

Show me where you've seen it or stop wasting my time.

Also it should be evident I can't answer that question because if I knew, it would have been a huge red flag when I joined in; and immediately voted Pine. So intuitively, you can see I don't know.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 1407, Desperado wrote:and i was operating under the assumption that pine was faking it to begin with
No you weren't.
In you accepted it - "nice post restriction pine"
In you were questioning whether he was faking it - "prana catching up and ~magically~ being willing to vote implosion (leading wagon), pieg (weird playstyle, multiple suspicions) and
pine (faking?
a pr, multiple suspicions) is what i mean by easy lynches."
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:48 am

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In post 1415, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1413, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6771

Three town fakes different posting restrictions
Who?
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:49 am

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In post 1418, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1415, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1413, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6771

Three town fakes different posting restrictions
Who?
Hiplop, LLD and I don't remember the third.
Caused a lot of headache for players
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:50 am

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"nice post restriction" isnt acceptance, it's acknowledgement

555 clearly shows i thought it was fake. the question mark exists because it wasn't mod confirmed

@ gin: i'm not the one who brought up the question of motivation so you can take that to pers. he said there's no town motivation to faking a post restriction and i don't agree.

i'm not even asking if you know, i'm asking you
what you think
. do you
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pine would do something as scum he wouldn't do as town?
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:52 am

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In post 1406, Persivul wrote:Yes, I did. Pine slipped. In the signup thread, mod said there would be no shenanigans. A meme post restriction seems like a shenanigan. Mod said this after the initial game description where it was easy to miss. Why do you ignore that argument?
In post 226, Persivul wrote:
In post 160, Pine wrote:Image
Post restriction is bullshit. Mod said in the signup thread, "I guarantee no shenanigans etc."

VOTE: Pine
In post 1413, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
This I have to agree with. I mean a fake claim is one thing but faking a post restriction is 100% BS
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:53 am

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hey mom

why is wheme scum?
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 1413, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
In post 1415, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1413, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
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Three town fakes different posting restrictions
Holy crap, Gin asks for a case where town faked a post restriction, and 6 minutes later you have an example from nine years ago? WTF? Looks like you had it waiting in case you needed it.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:00 am

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Ohh that was wrong game lol
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