Newbie 1779 | Spring | Endgame

[Blawb]

@Chris - I would have a heavy scum read on mastina if I hadn't read her other games. I encourage you to just skim through her most recent IC games, especially the ones where she was mafia. My TR is based on meta alone - if you don't like that, I'm not sure what to say. I don't believe that people can change their subconscious posting style at will, but that's just me.

@Alisae - I don't believe in OMGUS being a thing. Just my opinion. Scum would be worried about being called out for OMGUS, and I think it's reached that point where it's townish if anything.

VOTE: DogWatch

I couldn't get a good read on oldwino after going through his ISO. The shot at Icy was so mechanically bad that I can see scum being two newer players, but I can also see scum wanting me to think exactly that, so it's all WIFOM. After seeing 1316, which made a lot of sense to me, I went through DogWatch's ISO, and can say with confidence that he is more concerned looking townie than helping the town.

[Alisae]

It is when TB as scum effectively does nothing,.
Your Dogwatch vote is bad btw.

[Blawb]

Have you played games with TB before? How many?

And why is it bad?

[Blawb]

The mhsmith lynch was: mastina, DogWatch, Darklyn, RC, Grey

There's at least 1 scum on this Lynch, maybe 2. I read RC, mastina, and Darklyn (me) as town, which leaves me with DogWatch and Grey.

[Alisae]

I've played with him before and I've played a lot of games, I can't exactly put a number to it.
It's bad considering the slot hasn't really done anything else since TB's replace in besides vote me for a statement which could arguably be moreso coming from town then from scum.

[Alisae]

He's also misrepresenting meta (see his representation of Witch Trials)

[DogWatch]

I still think TB is mostly lurking, keeping his head down, and is now trying to turn the tables on me. But, I won't stay on his wagon for much longer if I don't get any more support. Is there any support out there for a Grey/TB wagon?

I don't see all the TB content mastina is referring to either. But who do you think we learn more from? A TB flip or a mastina flip?

[oldwino]

They seem to be strong town reading each other, at least saying they do, with Mastina posting too much and TB not posting enough. I'm more confident TB (Grey) is scum, and at this point his flipping scum points toward Mastina as his scum buddy, but they've been so supportive of each other, I think that team is ???? If either flips town, it makes the other look town. I'm kind of at a loss about what any flip will tell us, getting pretty confused, so will have to go back and read interactions from D1. Will try to do that tomorrow.

Join the TB wagon and keep it alive. I think Alisae would jump on if you did. Then we'd be at L2 and see if that gets anyone else in addition to Mastina, you, Alisae and me to talk about TB.

[Alisae]

VOTE: ThinkBig

Blawb come join me on TB.
You DO scumread him after all.

[Alisae]

btw we have 3 days do decide on a deadline lynch.

[Alisae]

which means flashwagon, gogogo

[oldwino]

Guess this could prove my RC/Grey alliance suspicion from end of D1 incorrect, eh?

[Alisae]

It's dumb because I'm town I can tell you that much.

[oldwino]

Maybe, but when you're scum, you're probably REALLY good scum. Maybe scum this game, maybe not, but thanks for hoping on (still Grey in my mind) TB's wagon and making things more interesting.

[Alisae]

my scumgame isn't really that threatenning.

[Blawb]

VOTE: ThinkBig

Blawb come join me on TB.
You DO scumread him after all.

You're right, I'm not opposed to this at all. Convince me pls

[DogWatch]

Would Alisae pull Blawb off of me and onto TB if he (alisae) was scum? Hunch says no, unless he thinks TB is the easier mislynch.

VOTE: TB

Very interested to see mastina's response to a TB wagon with real momentum. If they are in fact scum together, will she bus? Doubt it. She wrote the book on that.

[Alisae]

Nah mastina is very anti-bussing

[Blawb]

Yeah, scratch that. I'm not moving off DogWatch. Bad vibes on bad vibes.

[Alisae]

do we actually know icy was attacked? could there have been no night action at all?

townslip and even if this isn't a townslip I don't see why scum would push this narative.

Occam's Razor deduces that Icy was attacked rather then Scum pulling a no-kill gambit.

[Alisae]

Gut (there's that word again) tells me there's little chance Mastina and Ulti are scumbuddies. If Mastina is scum, then she's coaching behind the scenes, and there's no way Ulti would come up with such a terrible vote (on his own scumbuddy no less) if they're conversing outside this thread.

This is also a townslip

[Icy]

I really don't see a strong case on TB/Grey, can one or all of you state you case, please.

[Icy]

It's also very interesting that Oldwino is basing Mastinas alliance on Thinkbigs flip.

[Icy]

Yeah, scratch that. I'm not moving off DogWatch. Bad vibes on bad vibes.

This seems like a day three conversation to be had, please don't move to TB yet but consider moving off Dog.

[DogWatch]

I'm not moving off DogWatch. Bad vibes on bad vibes.

no one's going to join you on this

vote someone instead who might actually be scum