Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

[eagerSnake]

I'm starting to having a craving to see some tb blood tbh

[rb]

i know ur bad at the game so I'll give you some leway - please outline why i'm one of your top SR's (so I can outline how poor the basis of your read is)

Well we can start with post 48. Oh, and nice insult.

I've already addressed 48 - to which you have not responded.

Is not making sense a scum trait?

[Boonskiies]

I'm starting to having a craving to see some tb blood tbh

rb's case is flawed actually. He quote TB's post that came AFTER our big setup spec, along with multiple claims.

[eagerSnake]

Reading comprehension pls

[eagerSnake]

Like I said, I'm positive this is an investigation heavy setup. At this point, I'm pretty sure there are investigation roles on both sides. I was in a game that had scum and town gunsmiths alongside backup gunsmiths for both sides.

Yeah. BlackVoid and I share the same home site. Our home site both uses tons of power roles and is often swingy with the set up.

With that said, a miller makes sense in a power rich environment. That's how it looks so far and that's why I believe the claim.

^ this post is full of shit.

TB "believed the claim" on page 1. This is before we knew anything about a "power rich environment"

Now in this post on page 12, he says the reason he believes the claim is that it looks like a "power rich environment".

If he was town, how did he know it was a power rich environment - LESS THAN 25 POSTS INTO THE GAME.

Lynch with extreme prejudice

[Boonskiies]

yeah. that's flawed. I believed the claim too page 1, and now that I know this is a power rich environment, I believe it even more.

[Boonskiies]

well, page 2. That's when I got here.

[ThinkBig]

Like I said, I'm positive this is an investigation heavy setup. At this point, I'm pretty sure there are investigation roles on both sides. I was in a game that had scum and town gunsmiths alongside backup gunsmiths for both sides.

Yeah. BlackVoid and I share the same home site. Our home site both uses tons of power roles and is often swingy with the set up.

With that said, a miller makes sense in a power rich environment. That's how it looks so far and that's why I believe the claim.

^ this post is full of shit.

TB "believed the claim" on page 1. This is before we knew anything about a "power rich environment"

Now in this post on page 12, he says the reason he believes the claim is that it looks like a "power rich environment".

If he was town, how did he know it was a power rich environment - LESS THAN 25 POSTS INTO THE GAME.

Lynch with extreme prejudice

Mod meta: How about because I have fucking experience with BlackVoid?

Second, I believed the claim on page 1 for the same fucking reason Boonskiies, TwoFace, and others believed the claim.

Third, now that we

know

this is probably PR rich, I believe the claim even more.

[Boonskiies]

holy crap, the setups.

[Boonskiies]

Ah....as a mod myself who's main route is to push the limits of normal games, I salute you, BV.

[ThinkBig]

On our homesite, on almost every game there is a godfather+cop+miller. Obviously godfathers are blacklisted here, but millers aren't.

[Boonskiies]

godfathers aren't blacklisted here, are they...?

[Boonskiies]

Oh, it changed last year around when I quit.

[ThinkBig]

They are in normal games.

[Boonskiies]

I've also played with Miller/Cop that when the miller dies, Cop loses his investigative powers.

[Boonskiies]

They are in normal games.

Yeah, I looked it up. They have only been blacklisted from normals for about a year. I didn't know.

[eagerSnake]

So like

I don't see what's so obvscum about rb still

Feels like a mountain out of mole hill deal

[Boonskiies]

So like

I don't see what's so obvscum about rb still

Feels like a mountain out of mole hill deal

I don't see what's so obvscum about tb still

Feels like a ditch out of a meerkat hill deal.

[eagerSnake]

Well I'm waiting to see what rb has to say now

Kinda liked tbs response but still don't see the case on rb

[rb]

On our homesite, on almost every game there is a godfather+cop+miller. Obviously godfathers are blacklisted here, but millers aren't.

So clarify the following for me:
- why did your meta with Blackvoid/homesite meta not get mentioned on page 1?

- seeing as your perceptions on the believability of the claim are based on your personal experiences and meta on specific people, why would you assume someone who doesn't have the same experiences or meta on those specific people is scummy?

- when the original person who believed the claim mentioned as such, did you not think, "i know i believe it, but why do THEY?" - is the fsct that you agree with them but disagreed with me the reason you town and scumread us two respectively? If so, that's a very bad way to scum or townread someone

- the reason I scumread you is essentially the culmination of the above 3 points. Reiterated:
- no accounting for the experiences of other players, simply a desire to utilize this situation to force a scum or townread
- no curiosity over why someone might not believe
- inconsistency in stated reasons as to why you believed the claim. Sure those reasons makes sense that the miller claim is realistic, but it doesn't make sense that you'd assume other people have these se experiences/reasons to believe it, and are therefore scum for being skeptical

Level of irritability seems unreasonable and faked.

[Boonskiies]

because I go into every game and try to outguess the mod before the game starts.

do you think Smart is scum trying to coast on a Day 1 miller claim? What would you have preferred he do as a miller?

[Boonskiies]

because I go into every game and try to outguess the mod before the game starts.

this was sarcasm, if you couldn't tell.

[Boonskiies]

You both have deadend WIFOM cases that don't mean nearly enough to warrant a lynch toDay.

[ThinkBig]

So clarify the following for me:
- why did your meta with Blackvoid/homesite meta not get mentioned on page 1?

Does it really have to? It's page fucking 1 during RVS. Do I really need to type up a Ph.D. dissertation as to why I believe Something_smart's page 1 miller claim?

[rb]

because I go into every game and try to outguess the mod before the game starts.

do you think Smart is scum trying to coast on a Day 1 miller claim? What would you have preferred he do as a miller?

but how do you know he's miller?