Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Leon you have no structure built correct?

Correct. Now I'm going to borrow Vecna's shtick for a moment.

I HAVE PRIORITY AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO BUILD THE VIGILANTE WONDER. AT LEAST ONE OTHER TOWN PLAYER WITH PRIORITY SHOULD ATTEMPT TO DO THE SAME. BY THIS POINT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT SCUM TOOK THE FORBIDDEN PALACE, ALLOWING THEM TO BLOCK ONE TOWN PLAYER FROM ATTEMPTING TO BUILD A WONDER TODAY. SCUM HAVE A REALLY GOOD GRASP ON THE TOWN'S WONDERS AT THIS POINT, AT THIS POINT THERE'S NO USE ATTEMPTING TO HIDE WHO WILL TRY TO BUILD WHAT. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE VIGILANTE IF ONLY ONE TOWNIE GOES FOR IT, WE MUST HAVE AT LEAST TWO TOWN ATTEMPT IT.

SCUM GETTING THE STRONGMAN VIG COULD MEAN GAME OVER IF WE MISLYNCH, WE MUST SACRIFICE PRIORITY TO NOT LOSE TONIGHT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS PLAN?

^ scum trying to not eat rope today

[nancy]

Dunno but if anyone gets vig they should shoot me.

No one is shooting you or any Town at this point.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

The one person we should lynch on principle though is Ceasar.

VOTE: Ceasar

We're not lynching anyone on principle in potential MYLO. We need a scumflip now more than ever.

LAMIST, this much is obvious.

I changed my mind slightly. I just don't think a townLeon would have been that hard to lynch.

I went to L-1, and while the people you're claiming are my buddies could've hammered me (and made a point not to), davesaz and Maxous had the opportunity to hammer as well. I could've been lynched at any point.

Yet he wasn't lynched.
If scum wanted Leon lynched he would be lynched.
Ergo, scum don't want Leon lynched.
Natural conclusion: Leon is scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

erghh uhhh

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Interesting that Maxous flipped with the Wonder info. Either scum doesn't have the Janitor wonder, or they didn't want to use that player for the kill for some reason.

Though honestly, scum might have just gone "fuck it" to the Janitor wonder, it's a pretty middling ability in this game.

1)

Feels fake. "I couldn't possibly be scum because I have no idea why Maxous would flip with wonder info"

I regret doubting myself because of your AtE yesterday.

Vecna or maybe they were doctor hunting?
He was hanging low for the majority of yesterday.

That was also my thought, it's the Occam's razor explanation (since essentially making Creature conftown would be a pretty bad play otherwise).

2)

If this was your thought, why didn't you voice it instead of piggybacking off of Ali? This smells of buddying.

1) Why do you think a townie wouldn't write the same thing?

2) Day had just started at that point. I didn't see the flip and immediately have the idea, I thought about it while discussing other things. Ali expressed the idea when the conversation turned to the motivation behind the kill, so I voiced my agreement.

1) Seems like you were making a point of thinking it out in the thread to show it was on your mind, which would equate to "why would scum be thinking about the janitor wonder so much, must be town". I guess it's possible for town to actually be thinking about it that much though, if they were absolutely sure scum got it. But that doesn't line up with your earlier stance of thinking Vecna is town, because the only reason to not use it would be that Creature looked like he was going to roleblock the person using it.
2) It still looks like buddying to me of both Ali and Creature. But okay.

It's a factional ability.
pedit: Creats is conftown.

No he's not.

Creature is town by play, and

only scum if davesaz (or you) are scum with him

.

This is a MASSIVE walk back from his previous read of Creature.

I've townread him since Day One, what's the walk back?

The bolded. If you're saying Creature has been town by play, and is now confirmed town by the maxous/creature alignment sharing result, then drawing associatives where they're not there allows Vecna to springboard off that to continue to scumread Creature through scumreading davesaz. It's not actually defending Creature, it's instead lowkey encouraging the scumread.

[Nero Cain]

Nero I'm sorry but there is no way you are not getting lynched today after saying you are going for the vig because with your reads I guarantee you will lose Town the game regardless of your alignment.

So....whats the story now? I mean at the end of yesterday and today I was being pushed as scum that was getting bussed by RC but now you guys (Ali, you, Leon) don't want me to shoot him? Now my READ on him is bad? What made you start to town read RC?

[RadiantCowbells]

Nero you ready for the powerbus

[Nero Cain]

bro you couldn't even bus me if we really were buddies.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

shots fired!

[Nero Cain]

Jae, is Ali talking like at all in the hood? I have a fairly hard time seeing a him as demotivated town. I think he's just lurking scum.

[davesaz]

Like the go for broke to me is a lie based on how I learned the phrase. Guess it means something else.

Oh, sorry about the comment I made. I have 4 personal connections to people in your situation.

[MathBlade]

Dunno but if anyone gets vig they should shoot me.

No one is shooting you or any Town at this point.

I should be dead tonight if Town gets the vig if we lynch successfully. Period. Then remaining town gets a cop to work with as I am not announcing my target so it can't be messed with. As I would be dead, I can't be roleblocked so the only thing that could fuck with me is if I out Wifom Vecna.

If we mislynch then Town should wait a day to see if we are in true LyLO.

FYI whoever has the D4 wonder really fucked up by not putting me in on it. I would have loved someone to sync with but right now I feel right, alone, personally attacked, and no real way to validate anything and fighting a largely upstream battle as I feel scum are mostly the ones posting.

[MathBlade]

Like if stop all actions can stop all actions of the dead I would be sad.

Moderator: Assume player X has Stonehenge. Player Y performs stop all actions on player X. Would that stop the flip?

[MathBlade]

In other words can someone rolestop the dead?

[MathBlade]

I kinda want the pyramids but then I'd like to hold out for a vig/cop.

Why did you not pick up the vig?

[Nero Cain]

I kinda want the pyramids but then I'd like to hold out for a vig/cop.

Why did you not pick up the vig?

it was one shot and I was waiting for something more powerful.

[MathBlade]

My scumread on Creature is basically like several of his posts are this sort of confused "I don't know whats going on" and that just seems p fake to me. Though Titus' "Nero ignored the Max wagon" "He wasn't even a wagon when I voted Creature." "Welll...welll...you are ignoring it now!" Games with Titus would be a lot less frustrating if she'd just take being proven wrong in stride instead of trying to argue that she's right all the time.

You have several posts like this in your ISO.

Creature is now confTown.

How can you maintain the "I am so right trope" when there are several instances of you being flat out wrong?

Pedit: Wonders are likely more powerful as times age but you and LUV have the same tripe.

We are close to LyLO. You both plot out the same bullshit lies. It is the same thing in slingers. How do you expect me to townread you when it is so similar?

[MathBlade]

This is sorta how I feel right now.

Yuri

(5):

Lil Uzi Vert

,

The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna

,

Fro99er

Akane and Nebby

(5):

Yuri, Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage

beeboy

(4):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV

,

Spiffeh, Creature

NoticeMeSenpa

i (1):

Elbirn

The DEO

(1):

Sondam

Fro99er

(1):

Leonshade

Sondam

(1):

Drixx

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa

You suspected Vecna and nancy (Spiffeh) slots here then later on townread them then now pinned against a wall scumread them. What caused you to townread the slots midgame and what caused you to change your mind now?

[MathBlade]

Terracitta Army is going to be the most built wonder tonight. Its also spelled wrong.

Why did you intentionally crumb that you were building Terracotta Army then not build it in this post?

The misspelling is an I for an O. This is a common crumb. Since you misspelled it please don't tell me this wasn't intentional. If it wasn't intentional why did you make this post?

[Nero Cain]

How many games have you now pushed me for "playing like gunslingers"? I've been genuinely correct more often then not (didn't scumread Yuri/Kid, ABR, Bee) You know perfectly damn well that no one is going to be 100% correct.

I've been scum reading Spiff/Nancy for ages now. I had lessened my scum read on Vecna after d2 b/c #'s.

[Nero Cain]

Terracitta Army is going to be the most built wonder tonight. Its also spelled wrong.

Why did you intentionally crumb that you were building Terracotta Army then not build it in this post?

The misspelling is an I for an O. This is a common crumb. Since you misspelled it please don't tell me this wasn't intentional. If it wasn't intentional why did you make this post?

This is not a crumb and I thought it was funny to make fun of the mods mispelling.

[MathBlade]

Are you fucking kidding me?!?

One of the big reasons that I think A+n is scum 'cause their "ABR ruined the Yuri wagon!" was totes junk.

That was...
Never my argument Nero...
-Nebby

Nero that was just convenient. My arguement was that town was somewhat in sync and then

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

I'm with Vecna, I want ABR gone.
-Nebby
Pedit: oh cool, he scumreads me lol.

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

As of Day Two in this post the only potentially possible scum wagon you have wanted is Alisae slot and that is confirmed Halicarnassus D1 (why I wouldn't vote them FYI) and I have yet to see an explanation from you as to why he is scum yet targets people you consistently townread. That is very anti scum and only exerts more places to slip. In Shadowrun I was begging to not go on missions as I was slowly turning mush from lack of sleep and the speed of the thread. The way Town kept up posting and pressure was one of the best things as it forces consistency. Similarly you brag about being right but it just isn't consistent with your ISO.

[MathBlade]

You never pushed Vecna or nancy despite scumreading them at all.

[Nero Cain]

As of Day Two in this post the only potentially possible scum wagon you have wanted is Alisae slot and that is confirmed Halicarnassus D1 (why I wouldn't vote them FYI) and I have yet to see an explanation from you as to why he is scum yet targets people you consistently townread. That is very anti scum and only exerts more places to slip. In Shadowrun I was begging to not go on missions as I was slowly turning mush from lack of sleep and the speed of the thread. The way Town kept up posting and pressure was one of the best things as it forces consistency. Similarly you brag about being right but it just isn't consistent with your ISO.

??????

Well if he's scum then its like he's going to target his buddies. I don't get your point at all.

[Nero Cain]

Lynch Vote 2.05

Albert B. Rampage (6):

Lil Uzi Vert, Leonshade, Mathblade, nancy, Vecna, Akane and Nebby

Vecna (5):

Caesar Wills It, Yuri,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn

Caesar Wills It (2):

Creature, Brian Skies

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

Sondam

Not Voting (4):

ssbm_Kyouko, davesaz, PeregrineV, NoticeMeSenpai

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.06

Albert B. Rampage (7):

Lil Uzi Vert, Leonshade, Mathblade, nancy, Vecna, Akane and Nebby, davesaz

Vecna (6):

Caesar Wills It, Yuri,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn, Maxous

Caesar Wills It (2):

Creature, Brian Skies

Creature (1):

Sondam

Not Voting (3):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, NoticeMeSenpai

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.07

Vecna (7):

Caesar Wills It,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn, Maxous, Brian Skies, nancy

Albert B. Rampage (6):

Lil Uzi Vert, Leonshade, Mathblade, Vecna, Akane and Nebby, davesaz

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Yuri

Caesar Wills It (1):

Creature

Creature (1):

Sondam

Not Voting (3):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, NoticeMeSenpai

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.08

Vecna (7):

Caesar Wills It,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn, Maxous, Brian Skies, nancy

Albert B. Rampage (5):

Lil Uzi Vert, Mathblade, Vecna, Akane and Nebby, davesaz

ssbm_Kyouko (3):

Yuri, Leonshade, Creature

Caesar Wills It (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Creature (1):

Sondam

Not Voting (2):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.09

Vecna (7):

Caesar Wills It,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn, Brian Skies, nancy, Creature

Albert B. Rampage (4):

Lil Uzi Vert, Mathblade, Vecna, davesaz

ssbm_Kyouko (4):

Yuri, Leonshade, Maxous, Akane and Nebby

Caesar Wills It (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Creature (1):

Sondam

Not Voting (2):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.10

Vecna (7):

Caesar Wills It,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn, Brian Skies, nancy, Creature

Albert B. Rampage (4):

Lil Uzi Vert, Mathblade, Vecna, davesaz

ssbm_Kyouko (4):

Yuri, Leonshade, Maxous, Akane and Nebby

Caesar Wills It (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Creature (1):

Sondam

Not Voting (2):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.11

Vecna (6):

Caesar Wills It,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, Brian Skies, nancy, Akane and Nebby

Albert B. Rampage (4):

Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, davesaz, Leonshade

ssbm_Kyouko (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Caesar Wills It (1):

Mathblade

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Creature (1):

Sondam

Yuri (1):

ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3):

PeregrineV, Elbirn, Creature

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.12

Vecna (5):

Caesar Wills It,

Nero Cain

, Albert B. Rampage, nancy, Akane and Nebby

Albert B. Rampage (4):

Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, davesaz, Leonshade

Creature (2):

Sondam, Brian Skies

ssbm_Kyouko (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Caesar Wills It (1):

Mathblade

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Yuri (1):

ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3):

PeregrineV, Elbirn, Creature

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

I mean TBF I did end up voting Creature later on but I don't know how Math and Vecna~Vecna especially think thats Math throwing up a d1 VC showing me not on the VC "proves" I wasn't all over Vecna d2.

This was me helping to push the Vecna wagon. Like I know that you'll fall back to the "I'm bussing him" but yeah...