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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:23 am

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Vote Count 1.16

rb (3):
aronagrundy (), ThinkBig (), Boonskiies ()

Transcend (2):
Darkshadow64540 (), TwoFace ()

Eddie Cane (2):
Something_Smart (), hapahauli ()

ThinkBig (1):
Eddie Cane ()

TwoFace (1):
rb ()

aronagrundy (1):
Transcend ()



Not Voting (3):
horrordude0215, I Am Innocent, eagerSnake ()


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:23 am

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also I think TwoFace is probably scum. he has argued against lynching any sort of pr claim d1 any time I've played with him and here transcend claimed confirmable and he isn't backing down. j/s
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:24 am

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In post 545, hapahauli wrote:
In post 542, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 538, hapahauli wrote:
In post 534, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 529, hapahauli wrote:They're contributing, have their try-hard pants on, and are the driving force behind the game.
This does not equal town.
It does not guarantee town, but given the dynamics of the game so far and other traits in their filter (emotional, posting the first thing that comes to their mind, etc), I'm pretty sure it's town.

Who's more likely to be mafia? The two idiots screaming at each other in thread, or the guys in the background letting it happen?
This is a good point. I've lost so many games due to nasty TVT and the scum team just sitting back and letting town eat itself alive. It's one of the things I need to work on in my play
Like Eddie and DarkShadow are basically doing what you did as mafia in Open 678.

I understand there's always margin for error in Day 1 cases, but going after people that are sitting back in the shadows are far more likely to turn up mafia than loud, controversial, and emotional players.
You might be scum too, scum reading the idlers. it's usually scum who pushes idler lynches d1.
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:25 am

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In post 547, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 543, hapahauli wrote:How is it false? It's what I see happen repeatedly in games on this site. People go after the loud, controversial targets for lynches, and mafia lets town eat itself alive.
It implies that the answer can't be both. With the amount of idiots screaming at each other this game has had, one of them is almost certainly scum. Though I am in agreement that the right place to look for scum right now is in the people in the background.
You're making the same fallacy. Why can't a bunch of idiots screaming at each other be all town? Anyway, I'm more interested in below...
Why are you even attacking my reasoning if you are suspicious of EddieCane as well? To be voting him in this spot, you should realize that most of what I'm saying is valid.
Why are those two things inconsistent? I think Eddie is scum, but not for the reasons you listed.
What are your reasons?
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:26 am

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transcend didn't actually claim a pr though.
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:27 am

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23 pages, really? Will need time to get into this game, sorry all.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:28 am

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In post 554, TwoFace wrote:transcend didn't actually claim a pr though.
he did, he just didn't specify what pr
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:29 am

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UNVOTE:
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I don't necessarily think ur lying anymore hence the unvote
I also.domt necessarily tr you
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:29 am

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Eddie, you're picking and choosing things in my posts without considering my overall arguments and the context of the case.

Like I don't mind that you town read Transcend. I mind that you town-read a bunch of players for pretty light reasoning. It shows a lack of paranoia, since mafia have information about people's alignments.

Also, I'm not accusing you on meta based off other players. I'm accusing you of sitting back and watching the town eat itself alive.

You have scumreads (TB, and now TwoFace), but you're not pushing them unless you're prodded by other players to do so.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:30 am

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Why is TF a town read
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:30 am

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Is that for me, or someone else?
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:31 am

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you can basically ignore most of it. transcend and rb are caught scum
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:31 am

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You hapa
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:31 am

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I'm not confident enough in my srs to push them. I don't sheep cases often, I make them, and I have no good one to make now. but here, watch this
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:32 am

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In post 561, TwoFace wrote:you can basically ignore most of it. transcend and rb are caught scum
Does a team of rb/Transcend/Eddie make sense at this point?
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:32 am

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In post 556, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 554, TwoFace wrote:transcend didn't actually claim a pr though.
he did, he just didn't specify what pr
nope, what he did was basically claim something very vague that doesn't even remotely sound like a PR

but that all went out the window when he said Smart can't be miller because he was.

transcend isn't shit other than scum. If he has a pr, it's a scum pr.

confirmed 100% scum as far as i am concerned.
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:33 am

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In post 564, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 561, TwoFace wrote:you can basically ignore most of it. transcend and rb are caught scum
Does a team of rb/Transcend/Eddie make sense at this point?
I will have to look into eddie, as I have not paid as much attention to his posts
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 562, eagerSnake wrote:You hapa
He's arrogant, direct, confident, emotional, insulting other players, etc.

That stuff is generally dickish townie not concerned with image rather than mafia.

I don't consider him confirmed town by any means. It's just that given how this Day 1 has progressed, I find it much more likely that scum are lurking away while town eats itself alive.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:36 am

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In post 567, hapahauli wrote:I find it much more likely that scum are lurking away while town eats itself alive
how can town be eating itself alive when we have 2 basically confirmed scum caught?
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:37 am

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In post 568, TwoFace wrote:
In post 567, hapahauli wrote:I find it much more likely that scum are lurking away while town eats itself alive
how can town be eating itself alive when we have 2 basically confirmed scum caught?
Because your logic might not be as sound as you think it is?
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:37 am

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VOTE: TwoFace

Btw hapa has bad reasons to tr him
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:38 am

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Granted setup speculation is not my strongsuit. If anyone can build a convincing case for why certain claims don't make sense, I will listen. I've just not read anything remotely convincing, especially given TB's "host-meta" observations of BlackVoid.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:40 am

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In post 569, hapahauli wrote:Because your logic might not be as sound as you think it is?
why do people always want to do that? just cause we caught scum easily, doesn't mean you have to downplay my logic. I mean even if it isn't as sound as I think it is, chalk it up to scum caught for the wrong reasons.

bottom line is they are scum and anyone who thinks either of them are town, better just save their breath cause you won't be able to convince me to change it without some damn good evidence or a damn good case on somebody else.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:41 am

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In post 570, eagerSnake wrote:VOTE: TwoFace

Btw hapa has bad reasons to tr him
not as bad as whatever bullshit reason you have for voting me
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:44 am

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Well what have u done that was so townie

U know his reasoning is bs

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