Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

[eagerSnake]

Again miller makes nonsense in the setup to me

[eagerSnake]

1-Shot weak fn
Watcher
Backup watcher
Miller?????
Cop????

[Transcend]

VOTE: ss

[hapahauli]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Neighbor

Let's see if we can verify this with BlackVoid.

[Eddie Cane]

is there a disadvantage to transcend stating his night target in advance?

his role creates 2 confirmed townies so scum are basically forced to kill him outside of protection wifom, the only difference is if there's a second nk that means transcend targeted scum.

[TwoFace]

I don't believe the claim

And apparently trying to lynch my scumnreads is toxic but dropping the r word multiple times despite wing a highly offensive word almost everywhere now (and people have been warned/punished on site for it) isn't toxic?


P.edit - there could be no watcher. There could be no cop. There is no 1 shot weak friendly neighbor.

[horrordude0215]

Weak affix =/= Counterclaim for miller.

[horrordude0215]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Neighbor

Let's see if we can verify this with BlackVoid.

Yeah, because the mod is totally going to confirm this information...

[ThinkBig]

If transcend is mafia, his claim sets up serious WIFOM. All he has to do is claim that he targeted his buddy and have his buddy "confirm" him as town

[hapahauli]

There's no way to verify Transcend's claim, since he could hypothetically "target" a "mafia buddy". The only way this works is if he targets someone who is obv-town to everyone, or successfully targets mafia and dies.

[Eddie Cane]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Neighbor

Let's see if we can verify this with BlackVoid.

holy shit it literally doesn't matter use the wiki yourself.

weak = you die when you target scum
fn = mod confirms you to another player
therfore, it creates 2 lock towns outside of scum faking the whole interaction which is all around stupid.

if he's really as he claims that's how the role resolve. we never lynch transcend today. EVER

[Boonskiies]

I need to stop doing associative tells right now. Transcend is scum. Not going to over analyze. If eager is town and actually backup watcher, whatever watcher is out there is mafia aligned.

Meh. I don't really agree with that the watcher is mafia aligned. Can you explain?

i think it should be fairly obvious why I think that. More on it later.

[TwoFace]

The friendly neighbor role does not share any PTs, don't become masons, and don't recruit anyone.

Bingo

[Eddie Cane]

If transcend is mafia, his claim sets up serious WIFOM. All he has to do is claim that he targeted his buddy and have his buddy "confirm" him as town

and that's incredibly risky and stupid which is similar to why scum almost never fake masons and claim a partner

[hapahauli]

And Transcend, you're still going to have to walk me through how your role confirms or even implicates SS in any way.

[Transcend]

X X X

BlackVoid you're a great mod but you have an insufferable player list i no longer wish to be a part of.

SUB OUT

[TwoFace]

So basically I'm a recruiting mason that dies if i recruit mafia and conf towns someone if i recruit town.

Eddie it matters cause of this.

FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR DOESN'T RECRUIT ANYONE.

[TwoFace]

X X X

BlackVoid you're a great mod but you have an insufferable player list i no longer wish to be a part of.

SUB OUT

You got caught and you replace out? Blacklisted.

[hapahauli]

But my question is if "Friendly Neighbor" can have any variations? Or do all roles in this game follow the standardized mafiascum wiki roles?

[Boonskiies]

X X X

BlackVoid you're a great mod but you have an insufferable player list i no longer wish to be a part of.

SUB OUT

yeah, last ditch effort. weak was the best fake claim to try anyways. I applaud that claim. But it doesn't cc miller. He was about to be lynched. Subbing out literally changes nothing for him, but potentially helps his team if it works. This shouldn't be allowed.

[ThinkBig]

If transcend is mafia, his claim sets up serious WIFOM. All he has to do is claim that he targeted his buddy and have his buddy "confirm" him as town

and that's incredibly risky and stupid which is similar to why scum almost never fake masons and claim a partner

It is risky play, but definitely something scum!Transcend would do.

[hapahauli]

Like here's my problem:

Transcend's claim makes no sense.
"Supreme dickishness" analysis suggests that Transcend is town.

And I need to find some way to square this.

[ThinkBig]

Also transcend could also easily just claim that he was blocked or other kinds of Bs

[Boonskiies]

It's not even risky at this point, TB. It's last ditch, and actually, it's a fantastic fake claim. He just flailed with it with the recruiting.

[Transcend]

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Chew on this losers