Mini Normal 1890 - Endgame

[MagnaofIllusion]

I feel like 1889 broke Grey.

Says the player who is supposedly catching up ....

[massive]

What's wrong with me saying that? How is that indicative of anything?

[MagnaofIllusion]

The only thing it indicates to me is that you are following the thread currently while not actually catching up if you aren't providing reads ...

Do you think it is wrong for that to be something I find troublesome?

[massive]

I was informed the first 40 pages were a shitshow. And I'm OK with being "current."

[-Grey-]

I feel like 1889 broke Grey.

1889 taught me not to give a shit about everybody else's bullshit when I'm settled on a read because this site is full of fucking idiots.

[Cooperative Sheep]

It's where you are now anyway, so...

...that fails to suggest that I am content with that read, nor that it is a valid situation for the game state.

@Magna -

@Massive - if you're current now, do you have any reads/thoughts to offer?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I was informed the first 40 pages were a shitshow. And I'm OK with being "current."

Great ... what does current you have to say as to who are the scum?

[massive]

I still think Grey. Magna, no offense but you aren't impressing here today either, since normally I see town-you with all these fingers in all these pies but you seem oddly focused today. I think Sheep could be town. Boon's one post today is Boon-y. Titus is town but I always think Titus is town and it's really more important what Titus thinks of me, and it doesn't hurt that Twoface was obvtown in the bit of D1 I read. Keyenpeydee needs a closer look, and I probably should at least go back and look at the lynch.

[-Grey-]

Titus is confirmed town, genius.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I still think Grey. Magna, no offense but you aren't impressing here today either, since normally I see town-you with all these fingers in all these pies but you seem oddly focused today. I think Sheep could be town. Boon's one post today is Boon-y. Titus is town but I always think Titus is town and it's really more important what Titus thinks of me, and it doesn't hurt that Twoface was obvtown in the bit of D1 I read. Keyenpeydee needs a closer look, and I probably should at least go back and look at the lynch.

So your reads are -

Grey is scum. There's an actual read.

I'm "not impressing you". Boon is "Boon-y". Both of these are completely meaningless sentiments.

Sheep "could be Town". That's a pretty soft commitment.

Titus is Town. Well duh she's an outed Mason.

KNPD needs a closer look. Ok, that's commitment to nothing.

So you have one scum read, a Town read that is effectively useless since Titus is never getting lynched and a semi-read on Sheep. Speaking of unimpressive ...

Why no comment on Momo and his wagon? What do you think of Elena?

[Boonskiies]

@Moi - massive knows me better than most. It means a lot when he says that, haha.

[Boonskiies]

I'm surprised Titus hasn't mislynched me yet, especially considering she went into the 2F slot.

[Boonskiies]

I like sheep for scum.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I like sheep for scum.

Great. He has most likely 2 partners.

Who are they? What do you think of Momo?

[Boonskiies]

Elena. And then one of key/Momo. I town read ZZZx and aristo, but they could have been WK'ing me.

[Elena Fisher]

Get to this tomorrow but for Magna I have said many reasons why I think Boon is scum I will make ANOTHER bulletproof thing tomorrow but if you want to know my iso is just a click away

[Cooperative Sheep]

Dead thread is dead.

[Titus]

Get to this tomorrow but for Magna I have said many reasons why I think Boon is scum I will make ANOTHER bulletproof thing tomorrow but if you want to know my iso is just a click away

Town.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Get to this tomorrow but for Magna I have said many reasons why I think Boon is scum I will make ANOTHER bulletproof thing tomorrow but if you want to know my iso is just a click away

Town.

Stop being bad Titus. That's a NAI post if ever there was one.

[Aristophanes]

Dead thread is dead.

What are you doing in the dead thread!?!? :O

Also, regardless if I'm a third mason or not, -Grey- did just about the most antitown thing I've seen yet! I would lynch him no problem.

As for my activity atm, I'm sorry it is low. Once I get my last paper done (probably Saturday) I'll be back in force!

[MagnaofIllusion]

Dead thread is dead.

Then ask yourself - why is that? Functionally no matter what anyone says about "being bored" or what-not the situation resolves down to two possible reasons.

1. Momo is scum lurking out the pressure on his slot. Check his activity on site and notice he's all over other games but not here. In this case players pushing counter-Momo wagons are where you should be looking for his partners. In this case you kinda fit that profile since you hopped over to Grey when Momo started getting momentum.

2. Scum are under no direct pressure (meaning the wagons on Grey, Momo and Sheep are all Town). Scum have no reason to rock the boat when eventual momentum is going to likely fall to one of those Town and get them mislynched. In that case the pool of Boon (haha, I originally mistyped this Boob) / Elena / ZZZ / Keyen likely has the full complement of the scum team.

Decide which way you really think and do something about pushing in that direction. Personally I favor a Momo lynch but I fully admit I am biased and have a scum Momo read from Day 1.

[Aristophanes]

MoI, what is wrong with Massive having been reading recent posts while needing to catch up still?
That us my perpetual state I'm a lot of games, and usually comes from town in my experience.

[MagnaofIllusion]

MoI, what is wrong with Massive having been reading recent posts while needing to catch up still?
That us my perpetual state I'm a lot of games, and usually comes from town in my experience.

Nothing personal Ari but that is a stupid stance. Sorry but it is. All you are doing is giving scum a lease to say "Sorry, I can't catchup" as an excuse why they are ignoring scummy play of their cohorts in prior periods.

There is 40 pages worth of interactions and posts available to massive. Is a ton of it going to be super-useful? No. 2F assured us of that. But there is data to be mined there. Momo's play for example I have pointed out again and again synchs well with scum avoiding making reads of their own and slip-streaming behind the yelling 2F slot's pushes. That's to be seen clearly in those pages.

But massive is both saying "Nah, I'm staying current" while having literally only 1.75 meaningful reads (Grey as scum and Sheep maybe Town)out of 8/9 other alive non-Mason players. That shit is unacceptable.

There have been times I've not re-read significantly. Those times I can think of right off the top of my head are Soccer Spirits Mafia and Stephen Universe Mafia where I replaced into 200+ pages Large Theme games where keeping up with the thread made reviewing not feasible. You cannot say the activity here is sufficent to not warrant an actual catchup. massive has had at least a week to make do it.

[Titus]

VOTE: MoI

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: MoI