Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

[Hiraki]

yeah but please don't because even though i'll be alive tomorrow i will 100% lose motivation to gather my thoughts over night

[Hiraki]

*give me another hour

[nancy]

This game is hilarious

[nancy]

RC why in the motherfuck did you mason Fro99er

[nancy]

YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN MASONS WITH ME

[nancy]

Like I get that you had no choice in the matter but still

[nancy]

Also Grendel was objectively not an ideal copshot because he was kinda obvscum you should've used it on someone who is actually hard to read

[nancy]

This game is depressing as well as hilarious

[nancy]

Jae I don't think I should /in games with you anymore lmao

[nancy]

I mean what you actually should've done is fake a guilty on Grendel and use the actual shot on someone else.

[nancy]

I wonder if I could actually solve this game if I cared even the slightest bit

[nancy]

Probably wouldn't matter anyway since everyone here is zombified.

[Transcend]

yo nancy consider me town for 2sec and i'll do the same for you

hammer momo

[nancy]

Like if I don't sheep your reads babe you get really pissed and start SRing me and your locktowns almost always have scum in them so there's just no way to communicate with that

pedit I couldn't care less what you consider me as

[nancy]

VOTE: Transcend

[Transcend]

k i mean we had the same reads yesterday

i factually have no idea why you are doubting yourself now

like really

[nancy]

Oh, gee, I dunno, maybe cause GC flipped green?

[nancy]

I'm actually not doubting myself. I'm very sure that Hiraki is Town. I'm fairly sure that momo and Darklyn are Town. I was scumreading Titus before Jae bullied me into TRing her.

[Transcend]

how the fuck is him flipping green dependent on momo/darklynslot being town -_-

[Hiraki]

OK 6 PEOPLE ALIVE

PRIOR READS

Rileycountant - TR
momo - VI
Darklyn - NULL
nancy - TR
Titus - SR
Transcend - SR

NOW WE'RE GOING TO SHUFFLE IT UP

1

2

SWITCH

Riley:

I really want to keep this TR because of Riley's play. I think it's been good this game and I think Accountant has helped supplement that. This read is not something that I am not sure about.

Momo:

I have a lot of problems with Momo that reflect with his playing style rather than the content he produced (which is also bad but relates more toward the VI tell)

Instead of going into everything, I'd like to highlight why I think that his play is more scummy as the game progresses rather than VI tells.

In early game, the Riley read is what really set me off as a VI rather than scum.

Not really liking this Transcend wagon. Despite everything, I still think Transcend is town. Going to trust my gut.

If Momo flips red, I have a really really bad feeling that I was right all along.

BUT THEN

After seeing Hiraki's full case on Transcend...just wow. I missed most of that stuff.

VOTE: Transcend

AND THE WORST PART IS THAT THIS IS INDECIPHERABLE AS A BUSS OR A BAD VOTE. LIKE I AM NOT COMPLIMENTING THIS PLAY BUT IT IS JUST IMPECCABLE. He's just so fucking all over the place and it's annoying.

When I flip town Vote Nancy. If I am night killed, vote Nancy.

This also makes it very hard to vote Momo but this is where things look forced.

Momo - can you give me a reads-list? I want to start there first.

Momo - NULL

Darklyn -

Much like Transcend, his content is weak and not very "visible" but there are just overall flaws in what he has been saying.

shitposting suits scum

I don't agree with this but that has a lot to do with Darklyn's own play and Transcend's play.

My biggest source for the TR comes from the Grendel SR. This was done very early on and is very consistent. It should also be noted that Darklyn's reads were:

- Transcend TOWN
- Grendel SCUM
- TB (now Titus) SCUM

Would love to see some of the replacement's opinions soon but I'm willing to never lynch this slot.

Darklyn - TOWN

Nancy -

One of the biggest reasons that I was not OK with any talk of nancy-scum was the dumb big wagon that was run up on D1 that had little to no reasoning behind it. In examination of the wagon:

Fro99er

,

Darklyn

,

Rileycountant

, Transcend, momo,

RadiantCowbells

There are two flipped town. I TR two and the other two are scum and null atm. Momo flip can help settle this as I could not dare believe that there was no scum on this wagon even if it was super early game.

I also think that nancy's SR on me (i.e. the one about Grendel's read on me - not the ones discussed yesterday) are completely valid and one of the many reasons that this isn't my best game, unfortunately.

Actually go read this post if you're interested Transcend: viewtopic.php?p=8977708#p8977708

I'm lazy - can you tell me what I should be looking for here and what may have changed your read from this? (sorry if that question doesn't make much sense - can clarify if wanted)

I also think I can similarly articulate why Transcend is frustrated at you because of momo and not at me. You've been SRing him for the entire game but you're refusing to hammer? I doubt that I am the reason as I am pretty firmly on your PoE list. You even noted that Momo is at the top of Grendel's reads-list with me. If you're able to SR me for the same reasons, why aren't you able to SR him? I'm feeling much better about a Momo flip for associations more than anything.

My read is very conflicted. I also don't like how GC - which has little to nothing to do with your momo read - makes a difference.

(I am continuing with Titus but I really wanted to get this out before I said anything about the last two since they will require the most examination and it is a current ongoing topic)

[Transcend]

Hiraki's not scum btw

And the fact he got run up to L-1 speaks WORDS

need to find who was on his wagon

[Transcend]

VOTE COUNT 3 . 43

• Hiraki
  ----- 2 ( nancy, Titus )
  L- 3
  
  
  Transcend
  -- 1 ( Transcend )
  L- 4
  
  
  Titus
  ------ 1 ( Hiraki )
  L- 4
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  - 5 ( Darklyn, Green Crayons, JaeReed, Rileycountant, momo )

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-04-07 16:00:00)

VOTE: Hiraki

Titus i thought you wanted GC first tho? Or does it not matter too much?

VOTE: hiraki

L-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE: GREEN CRAYONS

na if u truly scumread me u'd be trying to get me lynched especially since for whatever reason i'm not getting lynched anymore

VOTE: hiraki

l-1 again

someone hammer me - i have no want or reason to stoop down to anti-town/troll levels with a self-hammer but I'm not arguing with deaf people - I will flip VT

Transcend - I've gone over why I haven't multiple times so I'm glad you've taken those reasons into consideration.

This seems fake. I am STATING INTENT.

UNVOTE:

Like, you're scummy as fuck and I'm not really coerced by your wifom, but you're allowed to change my mind.

That's the Hiraki wagon.

[nancy]

Here's the thing Hiraki. Who is scum on the momo wagon? Why are they just blindly rushing a bus through?

I think momo is Town because while his ISO sucks there is emotionality and reactivity in there that I wouldn't expect from scum.

[Hiraki]

Transcend:

I think most of this game hasn't been very townie of Trascend and his main motivator for saying that he's doing a bad job is very appealing (the fact that Riley is saying most of what he wants to say).

I have no factual idea why nancy is being townread by literally anyone

Do you still believe this?

is nancy not burning today? if not then momo or hap can burn.

I HATE this.

wait a minute i don't even remember if i scumread nancy this game or not

oh well

AHHHH

Another problem arises that Transcendence TR'd me early on and asked me about my nancy "TR" but never engaged me when I asked for reasoning on why nancy should be lynched. Looking at Transcend's ISO, I STILL have no reason why nancy was a wagon target.

@Riley i need ur help and guidance - how the FUCK can you TR Transcend????

Titus -

In order to start here, we gotta go back to ThinkBig. In a re-read, I have no idea why I had such a hard-on for TBscum. I wish I expanded more on that tbh.

Quite honestly most of my Titus read was on TB (I know, very shitty of me).

I need to redo something. I really thought it was GC Hiraki.

Can you talk about this more?

Titus is a TR atm.

Which means my preferred lynch order which will prob end the game is momo->nancy OR transcend

[nancy]

I'm lazy - can you tell me what I should be looking for here and what may have changed your read from this? (sorry if that question doesn't make much sense - can clarify if wanted)

Nothing to do with any read, that was just a link to some super basic VCA teachery from a newbie.