Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

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@dave what do you think about PP?

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Whom did you neighbourize??

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Why not? Why wait to use?

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WAIT WHY WOULD YOU TARGET NO ONE

This

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UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Nancy

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I think that PP is scum regardless but I don't think that roleblocker claims neighbourizer here.

This. We should be lynching roleblocker.

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Actually, why can't PP be the roleblocker who used his partners PR to claim?

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This wagon on me is dumb. I went for JK/Tracker and didn't get it surprise surprise.[/quote]
@lyon Nancy claimed VT

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VOTE: Spade_Ace

I feel like I have to be wrong on one of my townreads and this is the weakest one.

So who are my scum partners??

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Am way more invested in my scum game. This is not it.

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*tracker

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Like even if we weren't lynching Titus if

we were lynching people who could not potentially be roleblocker I"d be telling you guys you were morons.

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Why compromise then??

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Possible roleblocker flips i feel are PP, bang, gigabyte and Nancy. So why not lynch Nancy?

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no lynch Nancy but yes lynch spade

@kts someone has to flip RB. Who do you think is most probable?

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And when i flip town what will you say?

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You will probably say, he was a badtown and try and justify your lynch

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Possible roleblocker flips i feel are PP, bang, gigabyte and Nancy. So why not lynch Nancy?

... why not lynch pp?

PP's role can be verified tmrw, i think. Nancy claims to be a VT. Anyway, am not opposed to a PP lynch.

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He says his role is neighbouriser and that he hasn't used his power yet. So no one else can verify it for us. He could be using his partners PR as a claim to avoid getting lynched as RB. Either way he needs to use his power for us to be able to verify.

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I think dunnstral made a mistake by volunteering to be tracked. There is a pretty good chance of him being a kill target mainly. The trackable roles are fairly obvious.

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@bang PP claimed neighbourizer before cloud announced he tried opting for it.

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The neihborizer scenario penguin is claiming is completely stupid and inefficient but its an even less likely scenario on a scum slot. What gives credibility to his claim is me confirming that the role is indeed taken and UN CC'D = PENGUIN is confirmed TOWN neihborizer SLOT or ROLESWAPED MEFIA

I dont get this. Hows this? You are 3rd from below so what if PP is scum, their partner scum is neighbourizer and ABOVE you. You will still get denied the role because its already taken.

What he is saying is PP is either a town neighbourizer or a scum using his partners role to claim.

He is saying that if scum!pp, had opted for and got neighbourizer then PP would have Def used it on night 1 instead of taking the risk of not using it. As scum you want your role to be confirmed as soon as possible.

So pp is either a scum fake claiming using his partners role or he is town neighbourizer.

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I seem to be losing it. Titus claimed a tracker. SO they will NOT know whom PP visited. They will just know PP moved. Now if PP is scum, irrespective of whether neighbourizer or RB or vanilla, the scumteam can make PP make the factional kill. Tracker will get a positive. And PP will get away saying they neighbourized the dead person. How will we know anything? In this scenario, even if Titus is town, they will get a positive. We will just be wasting a night.

If the person he neighbourized ends up dead, PP would be lynched the next day.

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If at all we want to waste a night in all this, maybe we have to give a target for PP to neighbourize, request watcher to watch that target (assuming town has one. Even if scum has it, they cant openly deny town's request); and tomorrow both watcher and the target to confirm that. (Watcher saying PP did visit the target;and target saying yes, I got neighbourized). This is the only 100% way, but I just dont feel like wasting so much of energy on that. Still we can go for this. That way Titus and Schadd will also be free to investigate someone else. Also, if we dont have watcher, then Titus can track PP as already proposed, but additionally, the target for PP needs to be allotted by us and that target will need to confirm tomorrow about getting neighbourized.

If you ask the watcher to watch 'the target', then scum will be free to kill Schadd.

Now without the watcher. If we allot a target for PP to neighbourize, and scum kills that target, how will you verify whether he used his PR or not? So we cannot explicitly ask him to neighbourize a specific someone.

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Dunn, he says he didn't target anyone.

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I prefer a Nancy lynch. If her wagon doesn't build up, I'll vote for PP.

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8 hours left...We need to lynch someone... Titus and Dave pls vote for one of the wagons

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spade probably flips town here but there's only like 8 hours i don't see a flash wagon on nancy happening

Even if you think am scum, you should be voting for someone who you think can flip RB. There is literally no way that i can flip RB.

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@PL do you think the game state would improve a lot if my alignment was confirmed?

I actually asked before I claimed.

I am fairly sure i wont be killed at night as am a lynchbait. I can only get lynched. I am a vanilla townie. I didnt get the PR i was looking for. You can either trust me or lynch me today. But if town decides not to lynch me today pls dont start scumreading me the following days.

I was read to be lynched on day1.

^^^^This shows that town Is absolutely clueless. I agree with Dave, one of the VT claims should be the lynch.

Our best town strategy for early game deadline in this setup is to lynch a claimed VT if we can't agree on scum.

Lynch either me or Momo.

I actually supported Dave's idea of lynching the VT claims on day 1.

I was the one who revealed Schadd's role when he asked me to. I said on Day1 itself that I know what role Schadd had. Why would I do that as RB

Do you think if I was RB I would do any of those??? You can say that it is an elaborate tactic by scum. But at some point you need to think what is probable scum play. There is now way a scum with RB would act so lynchbaity.

Town's optimal play is to lynch someone who they think is RB.

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^ scumposting. Spade probably isn't RB but that post convinces me he's scum

FK off!!

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Why would town lynch someone they think can't flip RB??? If town does that at this point, we deserve to lose.

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@Giga HOW THE HELL THEN DID I KNOW SCHADD's ROLE THEN???

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Even before wheme's flip, I was ready to reveal the draft slot I opted.

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Should I reveal what PR I missed out on??

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Forget it Lyon. I understood.

Yeah so I know schadds role if others are telling the truth.

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Here's a scenario where it makes total sense for Spade to know schadd_'s role.

Scum have a top 4 pick.
They decide to go for broke and pick cop.
If the earlier players prefer something other than cop, then 4th player gets redirector and denies the cop to town.
If a townie does pick cop, the vanilla goon claims going for the cop role to appear townie.

What valid scenario has a 4th pick townie going for cop, a role which is almost always picked by the 1st townie in the draft?

@Dave go read the game. I have already explained that I thought Rolecop had a greater power than Cop. GO read.

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Even if you think am scum. I cannot be a RB. And town's optimal play is to lynch someone who might flip RB.

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Even if you think am scum. I cannot be a RB. And town's optimal play is to lynch someone who might flip RB.

The back half of your wagon ain't town.

Titus if you think my flip can help solve the game using your VCA theory then go ahead and vote. Town is gng to lose only a VT.

But i just think scum will justify their vote on me saying my town play was bad and that is why i deserved to die.

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Nobody ever actually

believes

that rolecop is better than cop, other than in a game with a godfather.
But it's an easy thing to lie about.

Pedit: why are you asking scum what her lynch pool is?

In usual games where specific roles are allotted to only one faction, rolecop is better than cop.

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Also Titus:

Cloud i feel is hard town.
Giga is most likely town.
Bang am having second thoughts. But this is his town play.
KTS, might be scum.

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VOTE: Spade

Sorry man.

No issues. All the best, if you are town.

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You are right giga. Bang wont change his vote. Its around 1AM here.

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Good night!! All the best.

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Am online. Can't sleep. Following the game. Can vote for PP if you think that wagon works.

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VOTE: Penguin Power

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I think that was the hammer. Was vt btw.

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Congrats scum team!!!...you deserved the win...beautiful play...speaks a lot that even on the last day the major suspects were both town....

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Bang - Paediatrician by day, mafia at night

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@grundy BEST endgame flavour i have seen in my few games here. The flavour + Giga's 'what' reaction, made it awesome

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Please dont redact too from the scum pt

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Bang nice job. Thought you were town for sure. Your scumplay now resembles your townplay a lot.

Happy that i atleast got my read on alban right.