Open 679: Jungle Oligarchy (Game OVER)

[Spade_Ace]

I usually dont take such extreme risks on my wincon. And i would have probably killed BTD and said that ppl are trying to frame me.

[-Grey-]

I'm down for roping NM for that hammer alone.

[Infinity 324]

BTD is probably town since he was on the kill list and on the hans wagon.

[Infinity 324]

Superhans (7) : ChaosOmega, Lil Uzi Vert, Riley Cake, -Grey-, BTD6_maker, Quick Transcendence, lucca261 (Lynch)

There's gotta be a least one mafia here

...right?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

BTD.

[Infinity 324]

He was on the kill list though.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mafia can still submit their own??

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Him being on the list doesn't make him town.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah but it's unlikely imo. Its so much of a risk to just lose one of your members and it doesn't even let you avoid a lynch necessarily. Although to be fair BTD was unlikely to be killed.

[Hiraki]

vote: spade

Phoneposting

[Umlaut]

If Spade is scum, he's probably mafia.

I feel better about Hiraki as a Hans partner.

Although... it wouldn't be terrible to hit mafia today to bring their numbers down, either.

VOTE: Spade

What the...?

Firstly, if you think Hiraki is Hans' partner you should be voting him, period. We need to stop the nightkills first.

Secondly, where is this opinion coming from? What has Hiraki done to make you think wolf?

[Umlaut]

On second thought hitting mafia is still a net plus, though wolf is preferable. Still want an explanation of the read, though.

[Spade_Ace]

9 players left. 5 town, 4 scum.
Lynch me, then we probably will lose another townie at night.

Next day: 3 mafia, 3 town, 1WW

Mafia wincon.

Win condition: You win when at least half of the living players are mafia, or when nothing can prevent this from happening.

It becomes lylo tmrw.

[Infinity 324]

Are you going to help anything or are you just going to AtE and state the obvious?

[Spade_Ace]

@umlaut your three points on why am ww
1) Hans posts. Can't defend myself on what someone else has said.
2) my activity during my read on Hans and the one you pointed out. Pls do check my activity on the site. I haven't posted anything during that time. I received a prod on the only other game i was part of then. Which was why i also came here and did a 'prod Dodge'. It is true i didn't complete my reads list. And by the time i wanted to comment here, Hans had already claimed.
3.My read on Hans. The 'scummy stuff': i have been scumread hard on Day1 irrespective of my alignment on all games except one on MS. People say it is cos i say 'scummy/weird' stuff. This is why i could relate to Hans. I too had been extra defensive/conscious in some games to not appear scummy when i was town. This had made ppl further suspect me.

[Spade_Ace]

Are you going to help anything or are you just going to AtE and state the obvious?

Can you point out the 'Ate' in the post you are referring to????

[Spade_Ace]

1262 was me stating only facts. Where did you see emotion in that???

[Infinity 324]

It appeals to people's fear of losing the game instead of making an actual argument.

[Spade_Ace]

It is appealing only if i am scum which you seem to have fixed up on. The only additional info i have is my alignment which tells me that my lynch makes it lylo tmrw. Am stating facts as i see it. Which will be validated on my flip.

[BTD6_maker]

At this moment I am willing to go with my weak-moderate wolf read on Spade Ace (my strongest wolf read). I mostly agree with Umlaut's case.

You mentioned that you cannot defend yourself about what Hans said, but that is not actually a point against Umlaut's case. It is certainly plausible that if A and B are scum, A is lynched and the associatives with B are visible. In this case, B looks scummy because of what A said.

VOTE: Spade Ace

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Spade Ace

[-Grey-]

No, fuck that shit.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[BTD6_maker]

As far as I know Spade Ace is lynched.

Could it be that Not Mafia quickhammered on purpose? If so, Not Mafia is probably Mafia and not Wolf as the last Wolf would probably be unlikely to risk their life by quickhammering like that whereas there are 3 Mafia left and they need fewer mislynches now to win.

[-Grey-]

As far as I know Spade Ace is lynched.

Could it be that Not Mafia quickhammered on purpose? If so, Not Mafia is probably Mafia and not Wolf as the last Wolf would probably be unlikely to risk their life by quickhammering like that whereas there are 3 Mafia left and they need fewer mislynches now to win.

NM is pretty much confirmed Scum to me, and I'm going to be screaming for his head tomorrow until town gives it to me to shut me up if it's already too late to lynch him today.

[Infinity 324]

I bet werewolf!n_m would risk it

BTD looks pretty bad with the unannounced L-1 and yet another sheep, he might just be mafia if this flips ww despite being on the kill list

I'm not sure why else he would be on there.