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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:18 pm

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Vote Count 2.04

rb (1):
ThinkBig ()

ThinkBig (1):
eagerSnake ()

eagerSnake (1):
rb ()


Not Voting (7):
Eddie Cane, Boonskiies, Darkshadow64540, hapahauli, Something_Smart, horrordude0215, aronagrundy


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

D2 deadline is Monday, April 14th 2017, 7:00PM PST or in (expired on 2017-04-14 19:00:00).
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:18 pm

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If you cant see the beneefit of everyone outing a hypo You're bad and im not talking to you anymore.
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:19 pm

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More eagersnake votes thanks
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:20 pm

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If you can't see the benefit of sharing scumreads, you're bad and I'll be talking to you more and more.

I'm the watcher, I got no result on you last night.
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:20 pm

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VOTE: rb

Yeah if you're town we lose

Gg
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:21 pm

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Top2 scumreads after thinkbig, an explanation why you're lazily tunneling him, and reasons for those 2 other reads.
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:21 pm

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Nice OMGUS bro.

My claim is hypothetical, now talk
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:22 pm

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In post 1004, eagerSnake wrote:VOTE: rb

Yeah if you're town we lose

Gg
Is your brain a little addled?

Can you explain why you're so reluctant to share scumreads with someone you were townreading?
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:23 pm

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Top 2 after tb would be idk

Hapa or whatever his name is

And the other dude I didn't even know was playing

Explanation? Day 1 was pretty shit

Now everyone else out your hypos
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:23 pm

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I think we're going down the wrong path here. People that are obstinate and uncooperative probably aren't the mafia. People that are lurking in the shadows likely are.

VOTE: Darkshadow64540

He has the worst vote of anyone on D1.
In post 67, Darkshadow64540 wrote:Wouldn't an early miller claim be ideal by scum? They get to look townie and avoid any investigation...

That said my vote is still VOTE: transcend for checking in at least twice and not giving more than a vote, you signed up to play mafia so actually get in here.
(not sure if the prior vote counted with the improper tag so here's a clean one)
He votes Transcend for what seems like very policy-esque reasons, and not because he's suspicious. Also, he throws in an attempt to discredit SS's claim without really doing anything with it. I see mafia very frequently doing these types of discrediting plays - they throw something at a wall and don't really do anything with it (and hope other people latch onto it). I feel like if his suspicion on SS was actually legitimate, he'd be much more concerned with him on D2.

I've also been pretty displeased with his contributions today. A lot of null-leaning-one-way reads, and suspicion on aronagundy that he didn't elaborate on until he was asked to do so.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:24 pm

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UNVOTE:

Now let's both quit being morons and unvote each other
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:25 pm

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Like I find it much more likely that mafia sat back and watched town eat itself alive in the Transcend chaos yesterday. If you're mafia, why would you even want to get involved in that shit when town is derp'ing so hard?
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:26 pm

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Hapa you look really bad voting transcend when u did
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:26 pm

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Also, someone
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let me know if there's any way that mafia can get 2 KP in Normal Games. It plays super heavily into how I'm thinking about the game, and I need anyone more experienced on this site to confirm this.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:26 pm

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What's bad about it?
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:27 pm

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In post 1009, hapahauli wrote:I think we're going down the wrong path here. People that are obstinate and uncooperative probably aren't the mafia. People that are lurking in the shadows likely are.

VOTE: Darkshadow64540

He has the worst vote of anyone on D1.
In post 67, Darkshadow64540 wrote:Wouldn't an early miller claim be ideal by scum? They get to look townie and avoid any investigation...

That said my vote is still VOTE: transcend for checking in at least twice and not giving more than a vote, you signed up to play mafia so actually get in here.
(not sure if the prior vote counted with the improper tag so here's a clean one)
He votes Transcend for what seems like very policy-esque reasons, and not because he's suspicious. Also, he throws in an attempt to discredit SS's claim without really doing anything with it. I see mafia very frequently doing these types of discrediting plays - they throw something at a wall and don't really do anything with it (and hope other people latch onto it). I feel like if his suspicion on SS was actually legitimate, he'd be much more concerned with him on D2.

I've also been pretty displeased with his contributions today. A lot of null-leaning-one-way reads, and suspicion on aronagundy that he didn't elaborate on until he was asked to do so.
why did you not call that post out yesterday if you have such a problem with it? (if you did ignore me)
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:27 pm

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In post 1013, hapahauli wrote:Also, someone
please
let me know if there's any way that mafia can get 2 KP in Normal Games. It plays super heavily into how I'm thinking about the game, and I need anyone more experienced on this site to confirm this.
I am pretty sure it's not a thing. Mafia vig ban ended it afaik.
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:28 pm

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Explain why you lynched the friendly neighbor

I unvote him as soon as he claimed. I'm town, and so I expected other townies to do the same

Yet instead, you lynched him
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:29 pm

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In post 1015, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 1009, hapahauli wrote:I think we're going down the wrong path here. People that are obstinate and uncooperative probably aren't the mafia. People that are lurking in the shadows likely are.

VOTE: Darkshadow64540

He has the worst vote of anyone on D1.
In post 67, Darkshadow64540 wrote:Wouldn't an early miller claim be ideal by scum? They get to look townie and avoid any investigation...

That said my vote is still VOTE: transcend for checking in at least twice and not giving more than a vote, you signed up to play mafia so actually get in here.
(not sure if the prior vote counted with the improper tag so here's a clean one)
He votes Transcend for what seems like very policy-esque reasons, and not because he's suspicious. Also, he throws in an attempt to discredit SS's claim without really doing anything with it. I see mafia very frequently doing these types of discrediting plays - they throw something at a wall and don't really do anything with it (and hope other people latch onto it). I feel like if his suspicion on SS was actually legitimate, he'd be much more concerned with him on D2.

I've also been pretty displeased with his contributions today. A lot of null-leaning-one-way reads, and suspicion on aronagundy that he didn't elaborate on until he was asked to do so.
why did you not call that post out yesterday if you have such a problem with it? (if you did ignore me)
Around the time I was going to elaborate, TwoFace explained Transcend's "slip" to me. Thinking Transcend was mafia, I discounted my scumread on Darkshadow pretty heavily. It wouldn't make sense for Darkshadow to just go at his scumbuddy so hard so early on. Didn't read like a bus vote either.

Now with a bit more information, Darkshadow's vote looks far worse.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:33 pm

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In post 1017, eagerSnake wrote:Explain why you lynched the friendly neighbor

I unvote him as soon as he claimed. I'm town, and so I expected other townies to do the same

Yet instead, you lynched him
I was super torn about it, but at the end of the day, his claim just didn't make sense.

When Transcend came back into the thread, claimed, and started flailing about, I was pretty tormented about it:
In post 796, hapahauli wrote:Like here's my problem:

Transcend's claim makes no sense.
"Supreme dickishness" analysis suggests that Transcend is town.

And I need to find some way to square this.
His behavior suggested town. But I could not for the life of me figure out how his claim made sense at all.

What pushed me over the edge to vote him was Boonskie's post that I quoted in my vote:
In post 849, hapahauli wrote:
In post 840, Boonskiies wrote:If that was actually his role he should have BELIEVED the miller claim. Like oh my god, he could have confirmed if it was real or not, which makes TOTAL sense with setup spec.
Yeah.

VOTE: Transcend
It didn't make any sense at all why he wouldn't have believed the miller claim with the role he had. I thought he had to be lying about the claim. On top of this was the "I think SS is confirmed mafia, but let's lynch someone else" stuff.

With all that in my mind, I voted him. I regret making that decision as quickly as I did in retrospect, and I didn't expect him to self-hammer.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:36 pm

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In post 1013, hapahauli wrote:Also, someone
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let me know if there's any way that mafia can get 2 KP in Normal Games. It plays super heavily into how I'm thinking about the game, and I need anyone more experienced on this site to confirm this.
We have a claimed vig
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:37 pm

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I'm not sure why people think my vote is "unexplained". You can very clearly see by the questions I'm asking in my filter, as well as the posts I'm quoting what bothered me about Transcend's claim and why I couldn't make sense of it.

Honestly, I still can't figure out the "SS is confirmed mafia" stuff. I was obviously wrong about it, and my mistake was not giving myself more time to think about it.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:37 pm

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People don't understand Transcend if you think he was flailing tbh
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:37 pm

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In post 1020, rb wrote:
In post 1013, hapahauli wrote:Also, someone
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let me know if there's any way that mafia can get 2 KP in Normal Games. It plays super heavily into how I'm thinking about the game, and I need anyone more experienced on this site to confirm this.
We have a claimed vig
No shit. I'm trying to figure out if he's conf-town, or if there's a possible mafia fake claim.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:39 pm

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I'll answer whatever questions I have to about my vote on Transcend.

But I also want feedback on Darkshadow. I think he's our best chance at hitting mafia today.
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