Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

[eagerSnake]

On the other hand, once you've took it slow, formed your read, explored it, reconsidered it, came to a conclusion, and stalked that read to search for any partners or townies connected to them, then you can start applying pressure, look for more partners or townies, then, finally, hang them

[Darkshadow64540]

Wouldn't an early miller claim be ideal by scum? They get to look townie and avoid any investigation...

That said my vote is still VOTE: transcend for checking in at least twice and not giving more than a vote, you signed up to play mafia so actually get in here.
(not sure if the prior vote counted with the improper tag so here's a clean one)

He votes Transcend for what seems like very policy-esque reasons, and not because he's suspicious. Also, he throws in an attempt to discredit SS's claim without really doing anything with it. I see mafia very frequently doing these types of discrediting plays - they throw something at a wall and don't really do anything with it (and hope other people latch onto it). I feel like if his suspicion on SS was actually legitimate, he'd be much more concerned with him on D2.

I've also been pretty displeased with his contributions today. A lot of null-leaning-one-way reads, and suspicion on aronagundy that he didn't elaborate on until he was asked to do so.

And how exactly was my vote on him bad? Up until that point Transcend had posted nothing but 3 naked votes, after the vote he then instead of posting normally he proceeded to dump a pile of shitposts into the thread. How exactly is this town behavior? Yeah, I admit missing checking in on the 29th and the thread was locked due to a rushed lynch by time I logged in on the 30th, I know that doesn't exactly look good.

As far as the miller claim, if it's not listed in the game's setup I will ALWAYS be suspect of millers.

[Eddie Cane]

yeah I've made mistakes of townreading scum early and being pocketed the whole game so I'm being cautious not to do that

and I've made mistakes of scumreading town and making an easy ml for scum so I'm being cautious not to do that either

so that's why I'm not just throwing out reads to everyone like we're on Oprah

taking it slow.. forming a read.. then exploring that read.. then reconsidering it.. etc

okay this could be scum

[eagerSnake]

okay looking forward to the reasoning

[hapahauli]

Wouldn't an early miller claim be ideal by scum? They get to look townie and avoid any investigation...

That said my vote is still VOTE: transcend for checking in at least twice and not giving more than a vote, you signed up to play mafia so actually get in here.
(not sure if the prior vote counted with the improper tag so here's a clean one)

He votes Transcend for what seems like very policy-esque reasons, and not because he's suspicious. Also, he throws in an attempt to discredit SS's claim without really doing anything with it. I see mafia very frequently doing these types of discrediting plays - they throw something at a wall and don't really do anything with it (and hope other people latch onto it). I feel like if his suspicion on SS was actually legitimate, he'd be much more concerned with him on D2.

I've also been pretty displeased with his contributions today. A lot of null-leaning-one-way reads, and suspicion on aronagundy that he didn't elaborate on until he was asked to do so.

And how exactly was my vote on him bad? Up until that point Transcend had posted nothing but 3 naked votes, after the vote he then instead of posting normally he proceeded to dump a pile of shitposts into the thread. How exactly is this town behavior? Yeah, I admit missing checking in on the 29th and the thread was locked due to a rushed lynch by time I logged in on the 30th, I know that doesn't exactly look good.

As far as the miller claim, if it's not listed in the game's setup I will ALWAYS be suspect of millers.

You say the claim is convenient for mafia to make, but never really make an attempt to determine SS's alignment. Stuff like that reads like you're discrediting him, rather than actually trying to figure out his alignment.

What do you think about SS anyway?

[Eddie Cane]

okay looking forward to the reasoning

I don't need reasoning, I've got a monster truck

[eagerSnake]

To hell with you too then

[rb]

yeah I've made mistakes of townreading scum early and being pocketed the whole game so I'm being cautious not to do that

and I've made mistakes of scumreading town and making an easy ml for scum so I'm being cautious not to do that either

so that's why I'm not just throwing out reads to everyone like we're on Oprah

taking it slow.. forming a read.. then exploring that read.. then reconsidering it.. etc

okay this could be scum

ya

[Eddie Cane]

Rb r u gonna unvote me or lazily tunnel

been voting you under an hour and lazily tunnelling hmmmm......

[eagerSnake]

You guys aren't even trying to read me shut up

Eddie that was a poke at him because he said I was lazily tunneling tb after voting him for less than a day

[eagerSnake]

Sorry that was over your head

[ThinkBig]

Eagersnake not wanting to talk is bad

TB also disappearing and not trying to solve the game, is bad

Objectively false. The game opened at 10 PM my time and it was Shabbat. I wasn't even planning on posting at all.

I am also V/La on weekend due to Shabbat and work.

[ThinkBig]

I'd like to see the rb vs tb pick back up tbh

There is literally no town reason for anyone to want us to death tunnel each other.

UNVOTE: rb

Re reading after work.

[Darkshadow64540]

You say the claim is convenient for mafia to make, but never really make an attempt to determine SS's alignment. Stuff like that reads like you're discrediting him, rather than actually trying to figure out his alignment.

What do you think about SS anyway?

I didn't attempt to determine his alignment due to getting tunnel vision on transcend, his damn trolling got to me...

As far as SS, I actually like most of his posts but due to the role he claimed I will NEVER see him as better than neutral.

[ThinkBig]

Theory: Scum team is probably mostly offf of the transcend wagon. The last place the scum team wants to be found is on a friendly neigjbor's wagon

[eagerSnake]

I'd like to see the rb vs tb pick back up tbh

There is literally no town reason for anyone to want us to death tunnel each other.

UNVOTE: rb

Re reading after work.

Unless of course one or both of you are scum, then there is plenty of town motive

[ThinkBig]

I'll do another readthrough in the morning. I have some carry-over suspicions from Day 1, but I'd like to look at this thread with a clear mind. Lynching a power-role sucks, but I think there's quite a bit of information to be gleaned from the lynch.

AFAIK, there's no way for scum to have more than 1 KP, so Eddie is conf-town.

I'd also bet the house that TB and RB are town here. Both of them are extremely angry/emotional, and mafia killing lurker slots (Iaminnocent) is almost always a sign that they like the way thread sentiment is going, and want it to continue that way.

This actually makes a lot of sense.

[eagerSnake]

If you read Blood in the Streets mafia you may understand why I am so cautious now. Untrod Tripod scarred me.

[Eddie Cane]

Sorry that was over your head

that's ok.

[eagerSnake]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68486

I gave him an early townread. Caught the other 2 mafia that day and was 50/50 on the sk. But none of that mattered because I was pocketed early.

[eagerSnake]

Interesting tidbit: The first 4 posts of the game were from the 3 mafia and the sk all voting kuribo, and then me voting kuribo

[eagerSnake]

Why is I Am Innocent dead?

Do experienced players really ask this

[rb]

Maybe I want to see what other people say?

[ThinkBig]

Why is I Am Innocent dead?

Do experienced players really ask this

It is the same question I was asking. I thought it was a vig shot, but our illustrious vig killed obv town TwoFace instead.

[eagerSnake]

Even though TF's an insufferable moron, I'm annoyed he's dead

Thinking critically this could be a thought out attempt to put emotion into postings

or it could be natural... idk