Mini 1898 - Inception Mafia - The Hub (GAME OVER)

[Infinity 324]

By my count, we can limbo a total of 9 people if we do that, plus the lynch...

[Infinity 324]

If 5 or more players are in a thread

, by achieving a majority to dream, all the players on that wagon, as well as the player who was voted for, will move into that players Subconsciousness (a new dream thread). [There may be mechanic(s) that can mess with this]

Shit, forgot about this part.

[Infinity 324]

That means we can't dream below level 2 without special mechanics though.

[Infinity 324]

Actually, we can still potentially get a maximum of 8 limbos if I counted right.

Spoiler: math

Start with 12
Level 1: 7
Level 2: 4
Limbo

Level 1: 6
Level 2: 4
Limbo

Level 1: 5
Level 2: 3
Limbo

Level 1: 4
Limbo

Main thread: 8
Level 1: 5
Level 2: 3
Limbo

Level 1: 4
Limbo

Main thread: 6
Level 1: 4
Limbo

Main thread: 5
Level 1: 3
Limbo

Main thread: 4

[ThinkBig]

@MOD: Still having trouble with our hydra account. I am hoping it should be fixed by tonight or tomorrow.

[Not Chara]

Infinity: that last limbo isn't needed. at 5 players we can just lynch in the main thread again.

Leon: i don't find mechanics opinions AI. i'm pretty sure i would be just as interested in these ideas as scum. but you're right that we should start scumhunting.

mods: thank you for the answers.
sorry for those i mislead with my misunderstanding about recovering perception.
so, every player recovers the same amount of perception on a flip. if a town player flips, it's 5% recovered. if scum, it's 10%.

[Infinity 324]

Infinity: that last limbo isn't needed. at 5 players we can just lynch in the main thread again.

But we can only lynch in the main thread once

[Not Chara]

that rule disappears once we hit 5 living players.

[Not Chara]

....i

assume

that players in limbo count as dead for that particular rule, but honestly i have no idea.

mods: if there are 5 players in the main thread, no dreams, and 3 players in limbo, can we lynch in the main thread?

[Leonshade]

Leon: i don't find mechanics opinions AI. i'm pretty sure i would be just as interested in these ideas as scum. but you're right that we should start scumhunting.

I agree that mechanics talk is usually null, I just think that the idea Inf presented, the timing of it and the way he presented the idea are indicative of town thinking. Good enough for an early TR.

[Infinity 324]

Hmm

If you haven't lynched when there are 5 players left in the game are you allowed to lynch twice?

My calculations assumed we saved the lynch until after the limbos in order to try to maximize the number of limbos.

[Neko Tail]

@MOD: Still having trouble with our hydra account. I am hoping it should be fixed by tonight or tomorrow.

No worries. We are aware of the issue. For this phase only and until it is resolved, you may post as seperate heads.

....i

assume

that players in limbo count as dead for that particular rule, but honestly i have no idea.

mods: if there are 5 players in the main thread, no dreams, and 3 players in limbo, can we lynch in the main thread?

No, you can't. It requires less than 5 alive, so 4 or less. Players trapped in limbo do not count towards this limit, though (as I assume that wasyour real question ).


I'd also like to step in again:
- If a member of the mafia flips, everyone will receive 5% perception for the flip, and an additional 10% for the scum flip. That gives 15% perception total.
- The player who was voted for to dream will also join their own dream. This means that, with 13 alive, the majority needed to dream (7 players) as well as the 'lynchee' join the dream. That makes 8 players in that dream.


I apologise for the rules being rather unclear; neither Frozen Angel nor me are very proficient at English.

[Neko Tail]

If you haven't lynched when there are 5 players left in the game are you allowed to lynch twice?

If you haven't lynvched in the main thread and there are 5 players left, you are allowed to lynch. That will reduce the amount of living players to 4. At that point, the special rule kicks in and there are no longer limitations on lynching in main thread.
If that answers your question?

[Infinity 324]

Ok so we basically have infinite limbos.

Sick.

[Not Chara]

oh. so it's entirely possible to hit a fourth-level dream with the current rules.
i don't know how i missed. it's obvious when you think about it, that the majority (7 of 12) AND the player being voted to dream would make 8 in the dream in total. from there it isn't difficult to hit the drepest level.

Neko Tail: would it be possible to edit some of the rules where the wording is confusing? i've always understood when you've explained a second time, or clarified a question.

[Neko Tail]

Neko Tail: would it be possible to edit some of the rules where the wording is confusing? i've always understood when you've explained a second time, or clarified a question.

I'll go over the questions asked so far and see if I can clarify the rules using it, but I can't promise much.

EDIT: done.

[Not Chara]

Neko Tail

:

You can only Lynch once in the game's main thread. If there are 4 or less players still alive, this restriction is no longer in effect (and thus, you are allowed to lynch freely in the main thread).

wasn't this 5 before, not 4? it's possible i'm misremembering.
besides that... i've read the edited rules. i appreciate the clarification on some of them, thank you. :>

[Not Chara]

what do players who aren't Infinity and Leonshade think of the rules?

[McMenno]

I think I've comprehended them enough. now to think of some strategies to employ (of course having the roles would be much more helpful... damn you inspectorscout, damn you)

[Not Chara]

let's play fake RVS. i want to get things done before the real timer starts.
VOTE: McMenno
i blame you for complaining about my /out and prompting me to rejoin this game.

[Not Chara]

i want extractor, infiltrator, or savior. infiltrator especially seems like it could be fun. i'm sure all the roles are at least somewhat useful, so i'm not too worried about that.
assassin would suck. i assume it's a killing role. not a fan of being wrong on a kill.

[Persivul]

Haven't had time to discuss but I've been reading and I think I get the basics, although I need to reread to figure out just which threads people have read access for.

I take it the strategy is going to revolve around getting scummier people into more and/or deeper dreams so that they'll run out of perception from kicks and go to limbo. Does that make sense, or am I missing something?

Also I'm not sure about the time mechanic. Does it apply to the initial time limit, or to the time remaining?

[Persivul]

1. Do not use my colors, Cyprus (#004040)

What's the point? On my monitor cyprus is like a shade away from black.

[Not Chara]

i think lynching scum in dream threads to take them to limbo is the main goal here, not kicking them until their perception runs out. the latter approach wouldn't be focused, it would hit all of the town in those threads too.

i'm not sure about the deadline thing. i'm hoping it's the former, but rereading it looks like it might be the latter.... this game could end up being very short.

pedit: it's not

black

, it's

Cyprus

.

[Edgar Allan Pro]

Is the mafia team without a kill? I assume because the game is nightless, that's the case, but I want to know for sure how to proceed.

I think we get the most out of lynching someone right when this 1-week pregame ends, then spending our 2 weeks wisely.


-V