Open 681: Making Friends and Enemies [GAME OVER]

[CloudKicker]

nancy

my read on nancy is just that shes an open book to me and is her shining townself, this looks weaks as a read but i can back it up from meta

riley

i have no experience from this slot, i just read that guy as town from start to finish, even nancy trying to scumread riley for fake scumhunting and such, i just disagree. Riley being scum here would humble my tone reading skills

hiraka

i know hes dead but i didnt read too much into him, he was the slot i was the most scared because i never saw his scumplay and if i remember correcty, i momentarily also scumread their townplay so,him dieing is perfect for me. I was banking on him being able to see my townplay againts all odds like he did on a previous game

[CloudKicker]

Also, if any of titus or trans is town, please appeal directly to me

[Rileycountant]

Meta....farts.

Scum whiteknighting for cred in lylo.

Did you, like, accidentally skim over the part where I straight up explained that scum nancy has no reason to pushback on the momo lynch?

[Rileycountant]

trans has to be scum because he pushed on green and ignored grendel which is a scumclaim, riley towntold imo into oblivion

But I also defended Grendel and pushed momo. Why is Transcend scumclaiming and I am towntelling?

I also note the lack of an opinion on Titus here.

[CloudKicker]

Transcend/Titus/Grendel

lol

[CloudKicker]

i just reread hiraka, im not sure if its the bias but i think he was obv town this game

[CloudKicker]

he also pinned the exact same scumteam

[Rileycountant]

its okay. To explain to everyone, i thought yall would be able to see the edits history of my doc but you cant so its all good

Why is it an issue if we see the edit history of the doc?? idgi?

[CloudKicker]

trans has to be scum because he pushed on green and ignored grendel which is a scumclaim, riley towntold imo into oblivion

But I also defended Grendel and pushed momo. Why is Transcend scumclaiming and I am towntelling?

I also note the lack of an opinion on Titus here.

i read first 15 pages

[CloudKicker]

trans has to be scum because he pushed on green and ignored grendel which is a scumclaim, riley towntold imo into oblivion

But I also defended Grendel and pushed momo. Why is Transcend scumclaiming and I am towntelling?

I also note the lack of an opinion on Titus here.

Because i have knowledge that trans is skilled enough to scumread correctly grendel, i have no knowledge about your abilities + i didnt read you townreading grendel

[CloudKicker]

its okay. To explain to everyone, i thought yall would be able to see the edits history of my doc but you cant so its all good

Why is it an issue if we see the edit history of the doc?? idgi?

Because i actually claimed my role at first?

[CloudKicker]

At first i didnt plan to share it but decided to

[CloudKicker]

The real reason of my doc was to track the mason abiility, until i read that mason claimed guilty on grendel

[CloudKicker]

The real reason of my doc was to track the mason abiility, until i read that mason claimed guilty on grendel

mm that was bad in retrospect oups

[CloudKicker]

I also note the lack of an opinion on Titus here.

i didnt read titus, i read tb and he was scummy af, from meta + just normal reads. I also explained why in lenght

[Rileycountant]

The titus reading thing is not something i want to do, i know its lylo but titus is just a scumlord as town and since last finished game im not assured i really want to base my others reads around this slot. Also from a meta standpoint, this sentence alone looks like distancing scumslots on lylo who dont want to get caught in cross reading their partners, me explaining this also looks like im overly cautious about the way i look, im just trying to be extremely transparent and honest since im town and i replacing-in lylo with you guys is a challenger i really want to suceed.

Oh, an explanation for the lack of read on Titus. This just seems disingenuous to me. If you do something scummy, wave your hand and go "oh, I know this looks scummy", that does not erase the fact that it is a scummy thing in the first place.

It's also inconsistent with your previous post where you said Titus was scum by PoE, but now you're waffling over whether or not to read here - I'd expect someone trying genuinely to scumhunt to say "I can't sort Titus because of her meta, but I think she's scum by pure math so it doesn't really matter".

[Rileycountant]

I also note the lack of an opinion on Titus here.

i didnt read titus, i read tb and he was scummy af, from meta + just normal reads. I also explained why in lenght

Yeah, I hadn't read that part yet.

[CloudKicker]

someone hammer me - i have no want or reason to stoop down to anti-town/troll levels with a self-hammer but I'm not arguing with deaf people - I will flip VT

Transcend - I've gone over why I haven't multiple times so I'm glad you've taken those reasons into consideration.

So scum willingly fliped hiraka who claimed vt which i assume was close to being lynched

[CloudKicker]

The titus reading thing is not something i want to do, i know its lylo but titus is just a scumlord as town and since last finished game im not assured i really want to base my others reads around this slot. Also from a meta standpoint, this sentence alone looks like distancing scumslots on lylo who dont want to get caught in cross reading their partners, me explaining this also looks like im overly cautious about the way i look, im just trying to be extremely transparent and honest since im town and i replacing-in lylo with you guys is a challenger i really want to suceed.

Oh, an explanation for the lack of read on Titus. This just seems disingenuous to me. If you do something scummy, wave your hand and go "oh, I know this looks scummy", that does not erase the fact that it is a scummy thing in the first place.

It's also inconsistent with your previous post where you said Titus was scum by PoE, but now you're waffling over whether or not to read here - I'd expect someone trying genuinely to scumhunt to say "I can't sort Titus because of her meta, but I think she's scum by pure math so it doesn't really matter".

lol i mean, the reason why im doing exactly what im doing is exactly written there in your face, i have done everything i can to explain to you in words why i think that and i am town, at this point you thinking im bieng disgenious is your fault for taking absolute correct town infos+feelings and rejectings them

[Rileycountant]

1998 is a shoddy case because it is a burden of proficiency paired with weird offsite meta and trying to use it as a case against Transcend. I don't buy it at all, and nobody else should either. Claiming that Grendel is obvious tone scum that Transcend should have been able to read is a completely wonky/subjective thought that is impossible to argue against, which I am sure was your intent.

[CloudKicker]

I couldve lied or try to bullshit stuff about titus

[Rileycountant]

someone hammer me - i have no want or reason to stoop down to anti-town/troll levels with a self-hammer but I'm not arguing with deaf people - I will flip VT

Transcend - I've gone over why I haven't multiple times so I'm glad you've taken those reasons into consideration.

So scum willingly fliped hiraka who claimed vt which i assume was close to being lynched

Dumbtell derp clear denied.

Everyone was confirmed to be either VT or scum at that point - the setup is open.

[Rileycountant]

lol i mean, the reason why im doing exactly what im doing is exactly written there in your face, i have done everything i can to explain to you in words why i think that and i am town, at this point you thinking im bieng disgenious is your fault for taking absolute correct town infos+feelings and rejectings them

This post is incoherent: can you rephrase?

[CloudKicker]

The titus reading thing is not something i want to do, i know its lylo but titus is just a scumlord as town and since last finished game im not assured i really want to base my others reads around this slot. Also from a meta standpoint, this sentence alone looks like distancing scumslots on lylo who dont want to get caught in cross reading their partners, me explaining this also looks like im overly cautious about the way i look, im just trying to be extremely transparent and honest since im town and i replacing-in lylo with you guys is a challenger i really want to suceed.

Oh, an explanation for the lack of read on Titus. This just seems disingenuous to me. If you do something scummy, wave your hand and go "oh, I know this looks scummy", that does not erase the fact that it is a scummy thing in the first place.

It's also inconsistent with your previous post where you said Titus was scum by PoE, but now you're waffling over whether or not to read here - I'd expect someone trying genuinely to scumhunt to say "I can't sort Titus because of her meta, but I think she's scum by pure math so it doesn't really matter".

By definition, calling someone scum by poe means that its not a personnal individual reads.

Also, you rationale is that ive done something scummy willingly, just to excuse it by "waving my hands for doing something scummy", i knew it was something that is deemed scummy by normal standards and if i was scum, do you think i would do it : )?

[Rileycountant]

I couldve lied or try to bullshit stuff about titus

Yes, it was physically possible for you to do so. What's your point?