world.createNew(Utopia everHope); - EPILOGUE (GAME OVER!)

[MathBlade]

I am also a them Kid please.

[RadiantTroubadour]

game.getPlayerList().listOut()

1. drealmerz7 - scummy push on us d1 and bad p&c vote but tentatively trusting math's tr
   
2. Zachstralkita - most likely lurker scum, low energy play from a high energy player but I want substantial content here
   
3. Pine - literally no read
   
4. gerryoat  - town
   
5. Clumsy  - eh. \_o_/. I get the scumreads on him
   
6. MariaR - scum - I had it in my head that she and p&c were opposing alignments so when I scumread p&c I got rid of my old scumread on Maria. Maria being completely useless here reminds me of pyp and Gerry agreeing with me here makes me feel decently confident this is her scum play
   
7. Aelita - ??? I think random is right about who she is and I WANT to say she's town as a result but I have no real read here
   
8. The Bulge - rc strongly scumreads him but I have no serious thoughts here with the p&c flip. Need to reevaluate
   
9. Mathblade
   ZZZX
   - town
   
10. KidAmn
    Leonshade
    town but please actually take a second and think about why we'd be in reality /:
    
11. Randomidget - town
    
12. BTD6_maker
    Vifam
    - vifam was obvious town
    
13. Peptobislawl - probably scum??

-giga head

[MathBlade]

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I'll c&p my readlist in a sec but uh

Rc can you stop being extra we can deal with pressure

RC has doesn't want play with me after backstabbers.

I just saw my friend have trouble finding a replace looked st last post saw night on hold and took it. Didn't look at the player list.

Thanks for the player list Giga.

Can you attempt your best to provide where RC is on each player?

[KidAmn]

I am also a them Kid please.

Shit my bad, sorry bro (is bro okay? I tend to use it for any gender if not my bad AGAIN)

clumsy is the only person that I have voted today kidamn. the rest of the votes are from RT and I disagree with them but I am not going to strongarm the hydra vote when I fucked up on Alisae.

Kid that's called hydra dissonance

(this is the giga head so I'll let rc answer)

I'm gonna be honest, I 100% do not buy and will never purchase even for a single shiny cent that every single post scumreading Gerry came from one head and every single post townreading him came from the other.

This post here.

It says you don't buy RT's argument.

That is closed off language showing you don't believe anything they say.

It means you don't want to hear from the slot.

I think you're reading more into that than I put into it if that makes sense? That's not "I will never listen to your slot again" (I don't do that, it's not productive) it's "I don't buy that one specific thing you are saying".

Giga: if you "get" the SRs on Clumsy, is there any particular reason you won't give more than a "v0v" on him? And could you go more into why you think PM&C/CK vs Maria was a 1v1?

[drealmerz7]

[*]drealmerz7... tentatively trusting math's tr

another reason you're scum

you keep misrepping, really hard, to try to push your own agenda

my read on you has nothing to do with MB, and I've said as much already

[RadiantTroubadour]

Yeah np but this iPad is slow as fuck lol

I'm on vacation (forgot to post but you can check out the completed pyp in the open queue for the same vla) so I don't have computer access phone is dead and I brought this just to read lmao

Kid, I just kind of expect Clumsy's posting to be a bit awkward and I felt drealmerz's posts to be more egregiously bad but he's lower in my poe

With p&c, the reason I initially scum read them (reaction to the lack of momentum on Maria) didn't make sense if Maria was their scum partner. I felt p&c was worse, so Maria was not a lynch I was interested in.

[*]drealmerz7... tentatively trusting math's tr

another reason you're scum

you keep misrepping, really hard, to try to push your own agenda

my read on you has nothing to do with MB, and I've said as much already

Congrats you just misrepped me

I am trusting MB's read on you

[MathBlade]

If you use bro for everyone that works. I generally don't prefer it but just mainly misgendering is a thing for me which I don't want to get into here.

I might be. It was a snap judgment but if you are calling a slot a 100% liar that is generally only implied scum do it. Unless you think the hydra is gaslighting itself? I don't think so but it is more trying to understand your thought process.

See what I am hoping to do is take what Giga gives me on the RC head and see if only one person ever pinged me. If only one did I unvote and vote MariaR. The harder it is to get reads the more likely it is the hydra is scum.

I originally was going to open with a vote on MariaR but the RT vote let me explore my scum read with pressure behind it and I am getting much more convinced the slot is scum.

[drealmerz7]

Congrats you just misrepped me

I am trusting MB's read on you

no, that's called a misunderstanding, I thought you were saying I was tentatively trusting MB's read on you

*hug*

[KidAmn]

Congrats you just misrepped me

I am trusting MB's read on you

no, that's called a misunderstanding, I thought you were saying I was tentatively trusting MB's read on you

*hug*

And Math - duly noted, will avoid it then.

[KidAmn]

I might be. It was a snap judgment but if you are calling a slot a 100% liar that is generally only implied scum do it. Unless you think the hydra is gaslighting itself? I don't think so but it is more trying to understand your thought process.

See what I am hoping to do is take what Giga gives me on the RC head and see if only one person ever pinged me. If only one did I unvote and vote MariaR. The harder it is to get reads the more likely it is the hydra is scum.

I originally was going to open with a vote on MariaR but the RT vote let me explore my scum read with pressure behind it and I am getting much more convinced the slot is scum.

I think the hydra is... a lot more divided than I thought. They still don't feel totally right with me, and this

I don't even know who I'm voting if anyone
UNVOTE:

VOTE: Clum

makes me think a Maria lynch isn't incorrect here either, especially as they've been plenty active elsewhere and I'm beginning to think that's very much as intended by the scumteam.

unvote;
Vote: MariaR

[RadiantTroubadour]

Ok this is all secondhand so rc if you still are here and I misinterpretted a read hmu thx

game.getPlayerList().listOut()

1. drealmerz7 - last post in the pt I could find on him was a scumread but I know he doesnt see it as strongly as I did
   
2. Zachstralkita - never disagreed with my sr on this slot
   
3. Pine - never discussed this slot
   
4. gerryoat  - I want to say I talked him out of his scumread here :/
   
5. Clumsy  - scum
   
6. MariaR - town though he said later in the game he'll let me decide on the read for this slot
   
7. Aelita - only discussion we had on this slot was me accidentally mistaking random's townread for rc's lol. I still think he null-townreads this slot or something
   
8. The Bulge - scum
   
9. Mathblade
   ZZZX
   - never discussed this slot
   
10. KidAmn
    Leonshade
    town
    
11. Randomidget - town
    
12. BTD6_maker
    Vifam
    - agreed with my townread last time I brought it up in the pt
    
13. Peptobislawl - was townreading while he was scumreading cloud, not sure if read changed here

Also later when I have a computer should I sort posts by giga/rc?

[inspectorscout]

Fame is not defined by who you are, but by what you did to become who you are now.

- Arthur Ryder

Vote Count 2.3

drealmerz7 -

[0]

Zachstralkita -

[0]

Pine -

[0]

gerryoat -

[0]

Clumsy -

[0]

MariaR -

[1] KidAmn

Aelita -

[0]

The Bulge -

[0]

Mathblade -

[1] RadiantTroubadour

KidAmn -

[1] Zachstralkita

Randomidget -

[0]

BTD6_maker -

[0]

Peptobislawl -

[0]

RadiantTroubadour-

[3] Randomidget, Mathblade, drealmerz7

Not Voting -

Pine, gerryoat, Clumsy, MariaR, Aelita, The Bulge, BTD6_maker, Peptobislawl

Mod Notes –

Thanks for the good wishes!

With 14 Alive, It Takes 8 to Lynch.

Day 2 Ends In (expired on 2017-04-18 05:52:36).

[RadiantTroubadour]

UNVOTE:

not sure what will happen between rc and math but i dont think this is the right place for our vote

[RadiantTroubadour]

also before i forget

giga head will be v/la from sunday (today) to friday

obviously since thats a long time i'm still gonna try to post. worst of it (when i dont have computer access) is until wednesday

[MathBlade]

This game is huge.

I want to sort that to see if you are telling the truth based on a representative sample. Because I see a lot of reasons to scumread you and not many to town read you and you didn't come out pushing gerryoat today I want to keep my vote here while I do it. If MariaR gets to L-1 I will hammer but I would like to have your alignment known today.

[MathBlade]

yeah uh hopefully if thats a vig shot they claim and rauth streams his roleblock target to the main thread? kind of a weird scumkill unless they figured the push for an nl was a pr-tell or something but yeah that was a horrendous vig if vig. if thats the scumkill then lol

anyway we're probably voting in {Maria, Drealmerz, Clumsy} today. maria is probably the only scum candidate off the wagon tbh (i guess pine is an option but he's a completely null lurker)

VOTE: Drealmerz

his vote on P&C was always the worst imo since a lover policy lynch makes 0 sense as does the assumption we were bussing

still floored about the flip btw p&c played like obvsvum

Which head was this?

[RadiantTroubadour]

giga

[RadiantTroubadour]

math i'm really not a tough player to read

at least read my one scumgame? newbie 1746

[drealmerz7]

I should have told you to join my and RM's link, giga

[RadiantTroubadour]

I should have told you to join my and RM's link, giga

is it possible for us to join it later in the game?

[drealmerz7]

giga it is a little weird to me you aren't on top of how the mechanics work, but yes, this is the portion that is pertinent to us now:

"Player X and player Y are linked. Player Z and player U are linked. Player X, Y, Z and U cannot link each other. Player V and W are not yet linked to anyone. Player X or player Y can link to player V or player W, but not both. If player X links with V, player X, Y and V are all linked together. If they want to link to player W, they have to wait until the next night."

you have to be not linked and I (or rm) have to try to link to you tonight

[RadiantTroubadour]

fuck so

i cant link w anyone else unless kid dies ok thats what i thought

sorry i havent been on top of anything recently

[MathBlade]

math i'm really not a tough player to read

at least read my one scumgame? newbie 1746

I will read that later on time permitting.

Namely I want if someone townreads you to say so and why.

Because having the policy thread and doing something different is either extreme hydra discord or scum who forgot.

[RadiantTroubadour]

right which is why we talked about it for two pages in our pt

we still have some discord with our mutual read flipping town and if rc chooses to stay we're going to work on it

dunno what else to say but neither of our heads have been inconsistent

[MathBlade]

Yeah that RC quit doesn't bode well for that though. Like I already apologized for replacing in. Not sure what else I can else I can do. I don't know if he just hates me as a person when the game probably would have been stalled longer or my slot mod killed or what. InspectorScout and I got close during Shadowrun and I try to play or replace into his games almost as fast as breathing.

He could have just provided his reads and then quit to help Town.

Like I don't get it and I am going to step away and let other people talk.