Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

[BlackVoid]

Vote Count 2.09

Darkshadow64540 (1):

hapahauli (1009)

aronagrundy (1):

rb (1093)

rb (1):

ThinkBig (1171)

Not Voting (7):

Boonskiies, Darkshadow64540, Something_Smart, horrordude0215, aronagrundy, eagerSnake (1010), Eddie Cane (1215)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

D2 deadline is Monday, April 14th 2017, 7:00PM PST or in (expired on 2017-04-14 19:00:00).

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[aronagrundy]

I'm a vt

[hapahauli]

UNVOTE:

vt

Catching up

[hapahauli]

VOTE: arona

I would very confidently ship Aarona/Something_Smart as a mafia team here. 3rd is probably horror? But that's mostly POE.

I don't think the super active emotional players on the Transcend lynch (and that have been bickering today) are mafia. With EC and Dark being confirmed, that leaves 3.

I'll answer whatever questions I need to. But Lynching into this pool is definitely the way to go. If I need to be lynched somewhere in between those names, so be it.

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Darkshadow layed out why arona's likely mafia for his day 1. I know I "disagreed" with his case before, but with the tunnel vision goggles off, it makes a lot more sense. A lot of useless contributions, not a lot of sticking-her-neck-out.

SS's play is pretty similar, and I'd look to his treatment of EddieCane on Day 1 for why he's mafia. He's very reluctant to provide reasons for why EC is mafia. Instead, he spends time criticizing the other person pushing EC's as mafia (myself) while doing very little other than posting "I want to see more votes on EC". It's consistent with scum trying to shit on other people's contributions without providing anything themselves.

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Would totally ship this post as an association case as well.
SS lists his lynch preference order as:

<hapahauli, aronagrundy, eagerSnake, horrordude0215> in preference order.

He's suspicions of arona, but has never talked about him in his filter until this point. He spends this entire post justifying suspicion against myself and EagerSnake, conveniently avoiding arona (despite him being the #2 lynch preference, and despite him being heavily implicated in an association case with me).

[Eddie Cane]

i have something to say but I want the claiming to finish before I say it.

horror and dark are left, correct? and no dark, claiming town does not count as claiming.

[horrordude0215]

...15 pages over the weekend. I hate all of you.

I'll actually do in depth reading a little later, but for now I see we're mass claiming?

I'm a neighborizer, I neighborized boon last night.

[Darkshadow64540]

i have something to say but I want the claiming to finish before I say it.

horror and dark are left, correct? and no dark, claiming town does not count as claiming.

If you insist I'll claim VT...

[ThinkBig]

ThinkBig - VT
Eddie Cane - 1-shot vig
Boonskiies - odd-night cop (also claimed the existence of a neighborizer)
Darkshadow64540 - VT (?)
hapahauli - VT
Something_Smart - miller
eagerSnake - backup watcher
horrordude0215 - Neighborizer
rb - VT
aronagrundy - VT

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The miller claim makes a lot of sense from the claims. I think horrordude is probably a scum neighbor based. If he is town, then this set up is ridiculously town sided.

No watcher has claimed and thus snake maybe just a named townie.

[ThinkBig]

UNVOTE: rb
VOTE: horrordude

This is a scum neighborizer.

[Something_Smart]

The miller claim makes a lot of sense from the claims. I think horrordude is probably a scum neighbor based. If he is town, then this set up is ridiculously town sided.

No watcher has claimed and thus snake maybe just a named townie.

or snake is a scum watcher. which would make sense in the setup as they could watch their partners to catch the vig or the cop. And also @TB if you think horrordude is a scum neighborizer, why wouldn't he just kill Boon since he obviously picked up on the crumbs?

VOTE: hapahauli this is still scum. 1303 reads very much like scum generating BS reason for reads. Writing off the emotional players on the Transcend wagon as town, then "taking tunnel vision goggles off", which is not really how tunneling works-- you can't just decide to stop tunneling, and his admission of being wrong on Dark reads as a "drat, now I can't mislynch them" more than anything.

He's also accusing me for being reluctant to provide reasons to vote Eddie, which is false, because nobody asked for them. (I gave a summary in 579 and then the Transcend crap got started and it was dropped.) And I'm scum trying to shit on other people's contributions because I disliked one case on one player (yet, I was still pushing the player).

[Eddie Cane]

@horror -please quote the specific things you said in the pt that boon is town reading. you can quote things YOU say in the pt, just not what OTHER people say.

[Eddie Cane]

I was actually going to say I don't think cop makes sense in this setup. it would be far too town sided

[eagerSnake]

...15 pages over the weekend. I hate all of you.

I'll actually do in depth reading a little later, but for now I see we're mass claiming?

I'm a neighborizer, I neighborized boon last night.

Depends on scum roles really, which we have no idea about

They could have role cops, neopolitans, roleblockers/stoppers, etc

We just have no idea

[Darkshadow64540]

@horror -please quote the specific things you said in the pt that boon is town reading. you can quote things YOU say in the pt, just not what OTHER people say.

Nope, that's still a violation

[Something_Smart]

@horror -please quote the specific things you said in the pt that boon is town reading. you can quote things YOU say in the pt, just not what OTHER people say.

pretty sure you can't quote anything from a pt. but you can paraphrase.

[horrordude0215]

@horror -please quote the specific things you said in the pt that boon is town reading. you can quote things YOU say in the pt, just not what OTHER people say.

Still rereading, just addressing this now... I'm gonna confirm with the mod about this one first before I quote things.

[Eddie Cane]

no, you can quote anything you send anywherre. if you send the mod a message along with your action you're allowed to quote that too. the rule is quoting anything anyone else sends in a private manner, hence why no pasting role pms etc

mod can confirm if he wants

[horrordude0215]

Like I said, I'm gonna confirm with the mod first. I'm not about to get modkilled if he considers it a violation.

[Eddie Cane]

that's fine. I was going off another mod who contacted list mod, better safe than sorry regardless

[horrordude0215]

Cool I'm back.

Eddie is basically claiming vig. Why would the mafia choose to kill IAA, a slot that has posted only once?

Nightkill analysis is pure WIFOM.

I actually TR him from day1 as well despite low activity but I'm worried if he's scum he's gonna slip by

Can you really say I'm inactive? I replaced in yesterday, posted a giant ass wall of text, and was active until the end of the day.

Just want to verify - is there any possible way for mafia to have more than one KP at night?

What the fuck kind of post is this?

Everyone out a hypothetical watch result so the real watcher can safely crumb

My hypothetical result would be that horrordude0125 targeted Boonskiies

Hey Eager, I want you to hardclaim right now whether or not you're actually backup. Thanks.

Theory: Scum team is probably mostly offf of the transcend wagon. The last place the scum team wants to be found is on a friendly neigjbor's wagon

UNVOTE: rb
VOTE: horrordude

orly

[eagerSnake]

Well I was hoping to dodge night kills but yeah I'm actually a town watcher. Targeted Boonskiies because figured if he was town he'd be a good NK for scum since he was top poster and probably a PR based on D1

Can confirm horrordude did indeed target Boonskiies last night therefor if horrordude flips mafia then I'd consider Boonskiies cleared

[eagerSnake]

There is no backup watcher, that was just a clever way of me putting out why I doubted the miller claim without eating the first night kill

[Something_Smart]

So you fakeclaimed to try to get me lynched?

[ThinkBig]

There is no backup watcher, that was just a clever way of me putting out why I doubted the miller claim without eating the first night kill

Fair enough.

[ThinkBig]

I still don't see scum hap.

Miller claim is far more believable with a cop claim.