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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:33 am

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In post 241, Keyser Söze wrote:Both scum and town can make a 'bad vote'. Your accusation about WhemeStar's "delayed" vote feels reachy. I feel like you are pushing this too hard.
this is you disagreeing with me. If Wheme was town I don't know why he'd not be voting Ircher the moment he thought Irchers vote made no sense. It was delay, I don't know why and it worries me.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:34 am

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I thought I would get SR for voting someone after being voted by people for not voting anyone
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:34 am

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There the truth
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:38 am

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Hi, whemestar.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:40 am

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Maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't,
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:41 am

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^ Directed to 322 if you're wondering.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:41 am

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Hey Whemestar, I used the PT.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:54 am

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In post 317, Mewtaph wrote:Wheme himself isn't even asking a question that should invoke a re-evaluation of the game slot or their slot.
I'm not? I have been scum reading their play as odd/weird/whatever adjective you want to use so that's not a change at all and my "your stance that you should be town read is beyond me." is literally a response to his #109 where he
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:58 am

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In post 325, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 241, Keyser Söze wrote:Both scum and town can make a 'bad vote'. Your accusation about WhemeStar's "delayed" vote feels reachy. I feel like you are pushing this too hard.
this is you disagreeing with me. If Wheme was town I don't know why he'd not be voting Ircher the moment he thought Irchers vote made no sense. It was delay, I don't know why and it worries me.
"If Wheme was town I don't know why he'd not be voting Ircher the moment he thought Irchers vote made no sense."
- yes, that is what we disagree on. However, I do not think this is scum-alignment indicative. I have seen many players (even this game) that have stated suspicion on a player, but not followed it up with an immediate vote. WhemeStar took 58 minutes. I don't think this is scummy/suspicious. I have a problem with town-Nero Cain trying to push this as scum indicative ("reachy"), while not applying the same logic on other player's delayed votes.

Interestingly, what is your read of me and Mewtaph? Town defending (scum), or scum defending (scum)?
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:04 am

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Whose delayed vote did I miss?

If you felt like this was selective scumhunting on my part why did you not say so when first voting me?
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:05 am

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In post 328, Radiant Moonlight wrote:Hi, whemestar.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:07 am

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In post 326, WhemeStar wrote:I thought I would get SR for voting someone after being voted by people for not voting anyone
What do you think of me finding that you weren't voting Ircher right off the bat to be scummy?

If you have the selfawareness to understand how a delayed vote could be seen as scummy what do you of Keyser?
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:07 am

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I'm not really feeling scum!Nero Cain.

Mewtaph, who else would you wagon?
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:08 am

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Don't really care about it, it wasn't even that delayed
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:09 am

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In post 333, Keyser Söze wrote:Interestingly, what is your read of me and Mewtaph? Town defending (scum), or scum defending (scum)?
I am not really sure yet. I think you are deff scum but I'm not really sure on mew.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:12 am

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I wasn't following the reasoning for Neo but if his entire point is because of a delayed vote by wheme then I agree that's a stretch. It wasn't some random vote. It's something he used reasoning with. I think that should give him more town cred confronting and going head to head. If he would have voted someone else randomly, I could see that as suspicious but he didn't.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:15 am

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Momo still hasn't gave me a reason to town read him. Calling him lynchbait loses its credibility when he is self aware of it and states it himself D1.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:16 am

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I was reading Wheme as scummy from before his delayed vote so its not the whole reason.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:17 am

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Srceenplay is on a scum streak?
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:19 am

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In post 343, Creature wrote:Srceenplay is on a scum streak?
Working on it.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:19 am

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Good luck getting your second scum win there.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:21 am

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In post 342, Nero Cain wrote:I was reading Wheme as scummy from before his delayed vote so its not the whole reason.
But it is a reason?
If he did vote immediately would you still have the same read?
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:22 am

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Magical words selling ice in alaska and Nero votes.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:22 am

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In post 345, Creature wrote:Good luck getting your second scum win there.
My town win record is what I need help with.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:26 am

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In post 346, Srceenplay wrote:But it is a reason?
If he did vote immediately would you still have the same read?
I would. Its just a compounding reason is all. I just don't understand why ppl think I should not think his delayed vote could come from scum.
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