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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:04 am

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In post 374, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 362, Creature wrote:Note I voted zakk before zakk's 243.

I haven't changed it because it didn't convince me.
[I know this may be an obvious question, but...]
Are those bads feels of zakk
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bad feels of Transcend? Or equal?


I know we only have one vote, but I'm not sensing your scum-read of Transcend. Show me the suspicion/concern you have.
Hi. Why not vote zakk?
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:05 am

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I'm feeling both of them are playing like I would expect scum!them to.

Though, zakk is easier to read.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:06 am

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What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:06 am

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In post 373, Radiant Moonlight wrote:
In post 371, zakk wrote:
In post 293, Mewtaph wrote:Okay, and then here's the thing that bugs me the most about your slot:
In post 112, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 109, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 108, Nero Cain wrote:seems more like low risk high reward to me.
You like lynching town? Are you scum?
I do not like lynching town and I am not scum. I think your play has been really odd and your stance that you should be town read is beyond me.
You respond to this post by Wheme as if you already know he's town or with the prenotion that he's town through the way you respond to him. What were you trying to get from Wheme with this post?
Good catch.

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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:07 am

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In post 367, Keyser Söze wrote:It is the point of there being a clock on it.

Tell me what scum-Whemestar had to gain by delaying his vote from say 1 minute to 58 minutes?

Is that really so irregular / suspicious / scummy?

Was an Ircher-wagon even a wagon he could opportunistically join to add momentum?
So you are buying into his being afraid to vote Ircher b/c he didn't want to get scumread?

I don't think his reaction was really a town reaction. I'd have expected him to vote Ircher. And its not just that Wheme didn't vote in 41 but he also didn't vote in 43, 45, 48, 51 and 53. My reaction to him finally voting Ircher was that his scumbuddies told him to vote a scumbuddy.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:08 am

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In post 370, Keyser Söze wrote:Do you think WhemeStar had justified reason to quick-vote Srceenplay too?
sure but he didn't so this matters not.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:08 am

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In post 371, zakk wrote:Good catch.
this is not a catch.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:11 am

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In post 377, Creature wrote:What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?
In post 319, Radiant Moonlight wrote:

VOTE: Nero Cain
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:13 am

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In post 377, Creature wrote:What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?
Why were you voting me *before* 243? I had made very few posts with any kind of content and there were plenty of better targets at that point.

And then: Why are you still voting me after?

Does 243 strike you as a town or scum post? Because you made an excuse for voting me based on the fact that it was before my 243, and then left it at that.

Implying that you could have had reason to suspect before, in contrast to after. You are subconsciously contradicting your own narrative. I almost thought it was OMGUS because I called you out for having shitty votes on vanity wagons, twice. But again, as you said, you voted me before 243.

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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:13 am

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In post 375, Radiant Moonlight wrote:Hi. Why not vote zakk?
Anyone is a worthy wagon on D1 (but I personally lean town on zakk so far. As he
interacts with players in real-time
, that read will only strengthen or weaken). I won't be voting him unless I am convinced otherwise.

I wanted to understand the nature and strength of Creature's s/read of zakk versus their s/read of Transcend (a player I have read correctly one game, and incorrectly read in another). I have not seen Creature push either s/read with earnest effort yet, hence my lack of understanding of the sincerity of either read.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:16 am

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Oh man, now calling for a vanity wagon early D1 means I must have a very strong case that I'll push until one of us dies?
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:17 am

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In post 383, zakk wrote:
In post 377, Creature wrote:What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?
Why were you voting me *before* 243? I had made very few posts with any kind of content and there were plenty of better targets at that point.

And then: Why are you still voting me after?

Does 243 strike you as a town or scum post? Because you made an excuse for voting me based on the fact that it was before my 243, and then left it at that.

Implying that you could have had reason to suspect before, in contrast to after. You are subconsciously contradicting your own narrative. I almost thought it was OMGUS because I called you out for having shitty votes on vanity wagons, twice. But again, as you said, you voted me before 243.

So, start talking.
Too many words, nothing to me.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:18 am

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In post 381, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 371, zakk wrote:Good catch.
this is not a catch.
Why did you edit my post to take my suspicion of YOU out of it?

What I actually said was "good catch; Will also vote Nero"

Did you not like the fact that I expressed suspicion of you? Are you trying to frame this subliminally to other players as you being an uninvolved party, whose opinion can be trusted (at least, more than it could be if you left my suspicion of you in the post)?

Pretty interested in your response to this. Because it was a short post, and there is no reason to edit that out except to try to keep your name out of people's minds as scum, while also discrediting me.

And yes, it is a catch.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:18 am

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243 doesn't seem AI for you.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:20 am

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In post 314, Creature wrote:Also, I'd rather vote someone I'm not finding town.
In post 315, Creature wrote:Even if it means starting a vanity wagon.

It's early and any wagon can happen, just put your vote into it and maybe someone will join you and bam, a wagon appeared.
In post 316, Creature wrote:
In post 300, keyenpeydee wrote:[4] momo: Not_Mafia, Radiant Moonlight, zakk, Srceenplay,
[3] Nero Cain: Elena Fisher, Mewtaph, Keyser Söze,
[3] Not_Mafia: Aristophanes, momo, Ramcius,
[2] WhemeStar: Nero Cain, Ircher,
[2] Transcend: PenguinPower, WhemeStar,
If I had to join one of these wagons, I guess only Transcend's I would join.
I read these as you are starting vanity wagon because you town read the others.
Why would you join a transcend wagon?
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:20 am

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In post 386, Radiant Moonlight wrote:
In post 383, zakk wrote:
In post 377, Creature wrote:What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?
Why were you voting me *before* 243? I had made very few posts with any kind of content and there were plenty of better targets at that point.

And then: Why are you still voting me after?

Does 243 strike you as a town or scum post? Because you made an excuse for voting me based on the fact that it was before my 243, and then left it at that.

Implying that you could have had reason to suspect before, in contrast to after. You are subconsciously contradicting your own narrative. I almost thought it was OMGUS because I called you out for having shitty votes on vanity wagons, twice. But again, as you said, you voted me before 243.

So, start talking.
Too many words, nothing to me.
Awww, Feeling left out? :lol:

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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:21 am

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In post 379, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think his reaction was really a town reaction. I'd have expected him to vote Ircher. And its not just that Wheme didn't vote in 41 but he also didn't vote in 43, 45, 48, 51 and 53. My reaction to him finally voting Ircher was that
his scumbuddies told him to vote a scumbuddy
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Even though this deepens the tin-foil hat conspiracy of your scum-narrative of WhemeStar it is actually making me understand what you are seeing (theorizing).

So you think scum-WhemeStar is being coached through D1?
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:26 am

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[post=Wheme]Wheme[/post]

Bloody spammer. 70+ posts. 3 pages out of 16 are yours. My priority is to hunt for spammers before hunting for scums.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:26 am

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VOTE: Wheme
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:28 am

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In post 390, zakk wrote:
In post 386, Radiant Moonlight wrote:
In post 383, zakk wrote:
In post 377, Creature wrote:What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?
Why were you voting me *before* 243? I had made very few posts with any kind of content and there were plenty of better targets at that point.

And then: Why are you still voting me after?

Does 243 strike you as a town or scum post? Because you made an excuse for voting me based on the fact that it was before my 243, and then left it at that.

Implying that you could have had reason to suspect before, in contrast to after. You are subconsciously contradicting your own narrative. I almost thought it was OMGUS because I called you out for having shitty votes on vanity wagons, twice. But again, as you said, you voted me before 243.

So, start talking.
Too many words, nothing to me.
Awww, Feeling left out? :lol:

Your player slot has no greater context in the game yet.
Take some stances worth considering and I'll respond to you commensurately.
I feel like lurking now and nothing you have no care why I scumread you.

Before I go

VOTE: zakk
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:30 am

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In post 392, alban wrote:[post=Wheme]Wheme[/post]

Bloody spammer. 70+ posts. 3 pages out of 16 are yours.
My priority is to hunt for spammers before hunting for scums
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Don't you think a replacement is more advisable if you think this is true? Why chase a policy lynch on D1, when the great harvest has already begun?
I will take this as an avoidance to present your scum reads.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:33 am

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Spamming isn't a scumtell btw.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 388, Creature wrote:243 doesn't seem AI for you.
Could you please show me some meta-rich scum-zakk connections. I feel like that is your angle (?).
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 389, Srceenplay wrote:I read these as you are starting vanity wagon because you town read the others. Why would you join a transcend wagon?
No, I posted that because the notable wagons seemed all town. When I saw the VC, Transcend was the only wagon with more than two people I would consider joining, though I'm not very willing to join there.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 397, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 388, Creature wrote:243 doesn't seem AI for you.
Could you please show me some meta-rich scum-zakk connections. I feel like that is your angle (?).
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