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[Transcend]

actually i have no opinion of your slot. this play from you guys could come either way

i just don't wanna deal with a hydra this game

[WhemeStar]

[3] WhemeStar: Nero Cain, alban, Mewtaph

p sure all 3 of these are town, and PROBABLY voting a mislynch.

i'll bring a tier list out in a bit.

Are you breaking my heart here?

Cmon, attacking Create and defending Whemeplay...sad.

Lol.. whemeplay. That was bad and it made me realize I don't like hydras that much

[Radiant Moonlight]

actually i have no opinion of your slot. this play from you guys could come either way

i just don't wanna deal with a hydra this game

You have an opinion of the players we voted?

[Transcend]

VOTE: PenguinPower

Line em up up and fire.

On a serious note, bare with me as RC and I have yet to sync because of short pregame.

pp's kinda scummy but not enough to vote him. it would only be a pressure vote which i don't really believe in

VOTE: RadiantMoonlight

i suggest we policy lynch everyone from amity because amity SUCKS

no idea

Fade out again

VOTE: Ircher

town

VOTE: Momo

probably town, don't disagree with the votes on him since he always finds some creative way to scumtell

VOTE: Nero Cain

leaning town? i eagerly await cain getting deep into the game and solving it since i feel we read the same way sometimes

What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?

Why were you voting me *before* 243? I had made very few posts with any kind of content and there were plenty of better targets at that point.

And then: Why are you still voting me after?

Does 243 strike you as a town or scum post? Because you made an excuse for voting me based on the fact that it was before my 243, and then left it at that.

Implying that you could have had reason to suspect before, in contrast to after. You are subconsciously contradicting your own narrative. I almost thought it was OMGUS because I called you out for having shitty votes on vanity wagons, twice. But again, as you said, you voted me before 243.

So, start talking.

Too many words, nothing to me.

Awww, Feeling left out?

Your player slot has no greater context in the game yet.
Take some stances worth considering and I'll respond to you commensurately.

I feel like lurking now and nothing you have no care why I scumread you.

Before I go

VOTE: zakk

pretty sure zakk is town.

VOTE: Momo

and yeah momo's still probably town

[Elena Fisher]

I already know I'ma need a drink for this game.

Why not explain why Wheme is town.

When did I say this?

When you told me I had nothing (and no reason to suspect him)

Well he was just spamming it was really NAI stuff if you want to show me posts before 122 that you found scummy we could talk it felt like you were in the mindset of "Oh I can turn this random wagon into a real one" really operstunstic

Even if it means starting a vanity wagon.

It's early and any wagon can happen, just put your vote into it and maybe someone will join you and bam, a wagon appeared.

And where is this vote of yours? I would expect a vote with this post why do you not like these wagons

I thought I would get SR for voting someone after being voted by people for not voting anyone

What do you think of me finding that you weren't voting Ircher right off the bat to be scummy?

If you have the selfawareness to understand how a delayed vote could be seen as scummy what do you of Keyser?

I don't know why I dislike this post it just made me cringe slightly it feels like posting just for the sake of posting

I am just fooling around.

so you and Titus have no reads in 15 pages?

Is this a bad thing?

What about you, Radiant? Where's your vote on zakk?

Why were you voting me *before* 243? I had made very few posts with any kind of content and there were plenty of better targets at that point.

And then: Why are you still voting me after?

Does 243 strike you as a town or scum post? Because you made an excuse for voting me based on the fact that it was before my 243, and then left it at that.

Implying that you could have had reason to suspect before, in contrast to after. You are subconsciously contradicting your own narrative. I almost thought it was OMGUS because I called you out for having shitty votes on vanity wagons, twice. But again, as you said, you voted me before 243.

So, start talking.

This tone is bad

really

bad it feels like rubbed the wrong way scum I don't know why Zakk is acting this way plus that post was just a mess

Spamming isn't a scumtell btw.

It's not a scum tell but if you don't town tell if 80 posts that's a bit of a worry.
I don't like the way keyser is talking to Nero it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve him like he's saying it feels like asking basic questions with barely any input

A few more pages to go but for now
VOTE: Zakk

[Elena Fisher]

[post=Wheme]Wheme[/post]

Bloody spammer. 70+ posts. 3 pages out of 16 are yours. My priority is to hunt for spammers before hunting for scums.

This can die for being extremely anti-town.
VOTE: Alban

VOTE: Alban

Voting me because of my # of posts and not actually scum hunting is bad.

Bad votes Alban wouldn't look at that post as scum and be like "Yes this post is okay" All the Alban votes are awful

AMITY
Aristophanes
Elena Fisher
Srceenplay
BTD6_maker

If we could nuke an entire faction, this is my suggestion.

What made you want to post/think this cause that's a bit....random?

I have a hard time believing that scum would say something so blatantly scummy.

Ah...damn. Trans isn't scum.

K.

VOTE: Momo

How has Transcend said anything AI at all?

[Elena Fisher]

Alright all caught up
Mew is Town
Alban town
Nero I'm

leaning

on town even if I question a few of his actions
Zakk scum
Keyser I'm leaning scum needs sorting

[Transcend]

can someone explain zakk!scum to me

[Transcend]

oh yeah and i've ssaid nothing alignment indicative in the dauntless pt.

so idk why penguin tr's me.

[Ramcius]

Trans, are you afraid scums try pocket you by TRing?

[Transcend]

not really

[Creature]

I would nuke AMITY because it's composed of null and meh players.

[keyenpeydee]

“Politeness is deception in pretty packaging.”

VOTE COUNT

VOTE COUNT 1.07

[5] momo:

Not_Mafia, zakk, Srceenplay, Radiant Moonlight, PenguinPower,

[3] Radiant Moonlight:

BTD6_maker, Transcend, Nero Cain,

[2] WhemeStar:

alban, Mewtaph,

[2] alban:

WhemeStar, momo,

[2] Not_Mafia:

Aristophanes, Ramcius,

[2] zakk:

Creature, Elena Fisher,

[1] Nero Cain:

Keyser Söze,

[1] Creature:

Ircher,

NOT VOTING:

rb, shos,

MOD NOTES:

momo is the leading wagon. rb is V/LA for the next 2 days. His V/LA will end in April 8. BTD6_maker is V/LA until April 14th.

With

20

alive, it takes

11

to lynch. Day One will end in

(expired on 2017-04-19 00:05:00)

.

[Creature]

Like the way momo wagon is composed of just one townread.

[zakk]

Haters gonna hate Elena

Dauntless what is your power because I'm considering switching to you from abnegation

This has been a (Drunk) zakk post

[Keyser Söze]

I'm not really feeling scum!Nero Cain.

Nero Cain likely salty town.

Nero is town

I honestly don't see the Nero!scum case.

p sure all 3 of these are town

I don't like the way keyser is talking to Nero it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve him like he's saying it feels like asking basic questions with barely any input

Nero I'm

leaning

on town

Ok, I am now going to jump off the Nero Cain-wagon (there is enough opposition/town reads of Nero Cain to tell me Nero Cain is not getting lynched today).

UNVOTE: Nero Cain

I feel like what I am seeing as suspicious is not being translated as being scum alignment indicative to the masses (maybe I am reading too much into a 'disagreement of opinion'). I will step out of my tunnel on Nero Cain and push elsewhere, hopefully my suspicions will be resolved later today if not the nightphase.

So Keysor, lets talk more about your vote

My vote was doing nothing. It became a vanity wagon. [At this stage people are convinced you are town, but I will let time convince me].

Why do you think it took him several posts to vote Ircher?

I still believe the 58 minute vote-delay was not indicative of alignment (null). However, if WhemeStar does flip scum, I would then look into the associations of who he has voted/scum-read. I personally don't vote straight away everytime (due to how a scum-read naturally develops, or sometimes I prefer to talk before shooting). Does scum-WhemeStar delay his votes? If you can prove this, this would help to convince me. If you can show me what scum-WhemeStar had to gain by delaying his vote of Ircher, this would also help to change my position on it.

What is your read on Wheme and why?

Not scum reading

. I didn't like his reaction to momo's initial vote, but since then he has won me over by keeping active amidst the eye of scrutiny. He has the largest body of posts so I will likely look at his ISO before the end of D1. I haven't seen anything that shouts SCUM. Neither will I vote for him based on his postcount.

If you can present to me a clear case on scum-WhemeStar (outside of the delayed vote/scum-coaching/spam angles already stated in the thread which I don't think are real)

I will listen

.

[Keyser Söze]

[post=Wheme]Wheme[/post]

Bloody spammer. 70+ posts. 3 pages out of 16 are yours.

My priority is to hunt for spammers before hunting for scums

.

Don't you think a replacement is more advisable if you think this is true? Why chase a policy lynch on D1, when the great harvest has already begun?
I will take this as an avoidance to present your scum reads.

That's highly presumptuous. Why would you think I have not already presented my reads?

If you were referring to your post 275:

Spoiler:

Truckloads of spam. Plz don't post more than 2-3 posts a day.

Apologizing in advanced for misgenders and this list includes the people who have stuck out to me.

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)

Null

(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Not_Mafia (0%) - It's hard to get a read here when he's always goofing off. Even when he does say something relevant, it tends to be an absolute, and he generally refuses to elaborate further.

Neutral

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Momo (+40%) - There have been questionable things tha this slot has said, sure, but it reads as genuine thoughts versus scum trying to manipulate the town. Aka, Momo, for lack of a better description, reads sorta like lynchbait at the moment.
Wheme (-55%) - For me, his attack on me at the beginning was bad, and while forgivable, his unwillingness to provide information and evasion of my question reads as suspicious at a bare minimum.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)

I need help to sort out this slot. Anyone played with them before? This comes across as a bit naive on one hand, but also scummy on the other. Not sure what to make of it, but this post will serve as a good baseline to sort him later. Whether their behaviour remains the same or not. To clarify on why I find them scummy

viewtopic.php?t=70799&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go - Here's a scum game of Momo's. He replaced in @ page 72.

viewtopic.php?p=8926674#p8926674 - Here was a game where he replaced in as town. Page 61

You can notice the differences in his play just by opening posts.

Momo could be a scum, but having played a game or two with him, I have noticed that he is universally scumread regardless of his actual role. That itself makes me doubt your reads (though I haven't looked at the threads you have posted). I find you (weakly) suspicious, not for suspecting Momo, but for not acknowledging the fact that he is a lynchbait.

Hi. Can this not be one of those spam games? I don't want to have 50 pages to read tonight.

Hey Creature.

^^

Btw, Ircher is town, better luck next time, RC.

Explain why.

Guys unlike some of you people I am actively trying to solve the game. Not and Nero pushing the Wheme wagon that I meant as rvs strikes me as scummy. Thoughts on this????

Sorry you rolled scum Momo

Wheme, enough of this bull sh*t. Get out of your damn tunnel and start scum hunting.

I would tell you to play to you wincon but your acting as if your wincon is mislynching townies.

Why are Not and Nero scummy for pushing on Wheme wagon, but Wheme is not scum for pushing on yours?

You vote whemestar
You question him and his actions
You call it an RVS and people voting it are scumy
Then you call wheme and NotMafia scumy
Then you call it RVS again

That's my problem with it.
VOTE: Momo

^^

What were you going to do with those reads?

"This comes across as a bit naive on one hand, but also scummy on the other"

(Ircher)

"Momo could be a scum, but having played a game or two with him, I have noticed that he is universally scumread regardless of his actual role."

(momo)

"I find you (weakly) suspicious"

(WhemeStar)

"^^"

(momo)

Were you going to explore any of those issues?

"highly presumptuous"? No.
Justified concern? Yes.
I was just suprised you chose to open up your account with "My priority is to hunt for spammers before hunting for scums"...



Imagine if I'd offered analysis of how more than 3 players were scummy/suspicious, or needed sorting... only to then place an 'activity-based' policy lynch vote on Aristophanes.

Does that look irregular to you?

[momo]

I have played a game or two with alban and he strikes me as the type of player to go for too scummy to be scum

Also, the post about pitying us is clearly fake. I mean I think we can all agree that he does not​really pity us.....

[Keyser Söze]

can someone explain zakk!scum to me

Yes please. Especially as I have him in my lean-town pile.

oh yeah and i've ssaid nothing alignment indicative in the dauntless pt.

so idk why penguin tr's me.

I unfortunately have no read of PenguinPower and Ramcius (DAUNTLESS MEMBERS).

Is anyone using their faction PT?

I.e are players busy in here, and busy in there... or quiet in here and quiet in there too? There is a block of players who haven't made any ripples or impact in this gamethread so far [PenguinPower, shos, Aristophanes, Ramcius, BTD6_maker].

Looking here next:

momo (sounded like caught scum earlier, insincere tone, people are saying he's today lynchbait... so WIFOM says to stay the f**k away from his wagon. I'd prefer to find reasons for

'momo is town because of x, y and z reasons'

, then being scared off his wagon.)

Creature (gut bad-feels). If Creature flips scum I'd want to go here next (potentially an unnecessary distancing attempt(?)):

DAUNTLESS has the potential to be TOWNLESS

Not_Mafia (convinced that momo and zakk is scum. He's one of the strongest authority voices in the thread (Radiant Moonlight has been suprisingly relatively hands-off so far) pushing for us to lynch his scum-reads but I'm still not town reading him. He's like an unofficial town leader but not dressed with the correct attire. Perhaps I am reading too much into his playstyle?)

[Not_Mafia]

[momo, zakk, Ramcius, ?]

[Keyser Söze]

[Set-up spec: there could be up to 5 scum in this set-up. Unless it's 4 groupscum + 1 Serial Killer.]

[Not_Mafia]

Creature was an SK but now he's town

[Nero Cain]

vote:Keyser

[WhemeStar]

Erudite PT is really slow, no one is using it really

[Keyser Söze]

I did not take it as serious roleclaim (in theory, now a town-day vig?).
Have you ever seen a SK change alignment during the day-phase/night-phase?