mini-normal 1892 - GAME END - Bodies, all over the floor

[horrordude0215]

HE. IS. NOT. THE. SK.

The only reason why you should be making this statement is if you are actually the SK yourself and for whatever reason didn't CC it earlier.

[FrankJaeger]

Wait
UNVOTE:
Colo needs to talk

[FrankJaeger]

VOTE: nero
Nvm about unvote

[horrordude0215]

Nero, you have to be flailing scum here. We have absolutely no reason to believe that Frank isn't the SK, considering that every other player has posted and contributed to the game since his claim.

The optimal play for SK in this situation is to claim and team up with town to lynch mafia today, because it's the only way for them to potentially not lose the game. If the real SK has not counterclaimed right now and it turns out that Frank is scum with someone, then the SK deserves to lose anyways.

[Nero Cain]

the mafia team is calling me scummy. how cute.

[horrordude0215]

Nero, you're not even coming close to making any sense.

[Nero Cain]

to myself and the other town and the real SK I am.

[Nero Cain]

like I think you and Frank are the mafia team hence he is not the sk. Its means one of Columbo or Jae are the SK with JAE being the most likely.

[horrordude0215]

If Columbo/Jae are the SK and didn't immediately counterclaim knowing that was the optimal strategy for SK, then they deserve to lose.

Scum: Nero/Columbo by association
SK: Frank
Town: Myself/Jae by POE.

[horrordude0215]

Columbo won't bus her buddy in lylo, so it's going to be up to Jae to hammer.

[Ms Columbo]

Hey colo.
Why do you think Nero was guarded

Nero was supporting bjc's claim, so I could see bjc town reading Nero - hence the potential bodyguard. Currently, I'm doubting that is the case.

horror is right that I had not been town reading Nero most of the game. Not sure if I said it more than once early in the game, but had Nero mostly null. There was something about the way D2 played-out that made me think if Nero was town that he was a likely NK. It wasn't anything I shared in game.

At the start of D3, of the players who remained, he was my best guess for town. Horror had said almost nothing since indicating he was planning an ISO, Jae was mostly MIA. My read on you was mostly null.

The paranoid side of me thinks it's possible you and horror are scum team...but I don't think I buy it. I think you are who you claim, the SK. Nero's vote doesn't look good.

I mostly like what horror has had to say the past day (real time) as well. Scum-horror should be trying to sway me to his side, not paint me as scum. If he's scum, he must be using reverse psycology if he wants me to vote Nero. I don't read it that way, it feels natural.

[Ms Columbo]

@Frank - How do you get from this:

I can see nero being scum. Every.single.one of neros pushes on me seems to be b.s.

And by BS i mean he would do nothing when i pushed him back. Town nero doesnt do that does he?

To this in the next post?

Horror and jae possible team

[Ms Columbo]

I'm going to get a better post out soon, but it's lylo... shouldn't we be massclaiming at this point?

How does mass claiming benefit town? (I assume you mean roles as well as alignment.)

[Ms Columbo]

@Jae - what are your thoughts on town and the SK voting together today as a strategy?

[Ms Columbo]

@Nero - You believe Frank is lying about being SK and we have a unclaimed SK in our midst. Help me understand the real SK's potential strategy. It seems like SK's only hope is to vote with town today.

[FrankJaeger]

@Frank - How do you get from this:

I can see nero being scum. Every.single.one of neros pushes on me seems to be b.s.

And by BS i mean he would do nothing when i pushed him back. Town nero doesnt do that does he?

To this in the next post?

Horror and jae possible team

Just brainstorming on the second quote

[FrankJaeger]

Nero not being hammered yet?
Surprise Surprise

[horrordude0215]

I'm going to get a better post out soon, but it's lylo... shouldn't we be massclaiming at this point?

How does mass claiming benefit town? (I assume you mean roles as well as alignment.)

I just figured lylo was about when people went massclaim territory. Like I said, it's been a while since I've been here and I don't know how site meta has changed lol

Columbo's 1335 doesn't feel genuine to me.

Jae has been online since last night when Nero was put at L-1. Columbo has posted in this thread. Scum quickhammer opportunities have been there if nero was town, but the fact that nero isn't dead means that he's almost guaranteed scum or that the scumteam is myself and Frank - the uncounterclaimed SK.

[Nero Cain]

You believe Frank is lying about being SK and we have a unclaimed SK in our midst. Help me understand the real SK's potential strategy. It seems like SK's only hope is to vote with town toda

He's not an SK b/c he has a gun. For Jae him not hammering could be a few things, he gets that I'm town and my lynch ends his chances (as they'd just NK him tonight) he had got on early to check this site but was too busy to do anything.

If you really don't want to lynch a fake claimed SK then fine, we can just lynch his buddy with the same result.
VOTE: horror

[Nero Cain]

Nero not being hammered yet?
Surprise Surprise

but the fact that nero isn't dead means that he's almost guaranteed scum

like look at these two little scumbags trying to pressure you into a mislynch, they are working together and thats 100% scum team play.

[Nero Cain]

, not paint me as scum. If he's scum, he must be using reverse psycology

you are town, by painting us as scumbuddies he knows that you are going to go "no that's not true!" its trying to pressure you into voting me to PROVE that we are not the scumbuddies he is trying to paint us as.

[horrordude0215]

Frank claimed SK back in post 1248. Jae has acknowledged reading that in post 1252.

You've implied that you and Columbo are town from your perspective. Myself and Frank are scumbuddies. That implies that Jae is the SK... despite her acknowledging the post where scum allegedly "fakeclaimed" SK. Knowing that the optimal play for SK today is to lynch mafia, this should have been seen as an obvious scumclaim followed by an immediate vote. The fact that hasn't happened means Jae isn't counterclaiming.

This game is solved. Nero is trying way too hard to complicate things.

[Nero Cain]

I wouldn't claim SK either. Like in the scenario that mafia gets lynched today and shoots mafia in the night he'd have 0% chance of winning. Frank claiming SK is survivalist as fuck.

[horrordude0215]

If town is lynched today the SK has a 0% chance of winning. If Jae is really the SK and doesn't counterclaim the obvious mafia from her point of view, she deserves to lose this game.

Of course all of this is totally moot anyways because you trying to paint the last town player as the SK is going to backfire against you pretty hard when Jae comes in, states "no wtf I'm not the SK" and hammers your ass.

[Nero Cain]

if he hammers me then he and town are fucked. What will you do if he does claim SK?