DoY I: British Monarchy Mafia (Mini 1896) - Game Over :O

[shaddowez]

shaddowez: do you have a read on drealmerz/CloudKicker?
~Chara

I still think dreal is town. This is mostly based on meta, which is terrible since I don't think I've ever actually seen scum!dreal, but he's been lynchbait in every game I've seen. His emotions and posting style have always come off as scummy, but I think there would be a more contrived feel than I'm getting here if he was scum.

I don't really have a solid read on CloudKicker yet. I was scumreading the slot based on Pine's actions, and I don't think he's done anything obvtown to make me start townreading the slot.

[Infinity 324]

1206 actually indicates a desire to want to continue discussions. It's in response to farside, but isn't overly defensive or snide. That one post isn't likely to make any change in farside's read on them, so there was no need to post it at all.

1235 was a follow up of thoughts from prior posts regarding CS calling the AC/farside posts TvS. Rather than trying to convince Shepard that farside is the scum in that equation, or even just defending themselves, they explain a thought process and try to derive the thought process of Shepard. Again, while not necessarily a town move, I'm not sure I see scum having responded in that way.

This is more depth than shadow was giving before

[Almost Chara]

shaddowez: if you've not seen someone as scum, don't make guesses about their scumgame. that's my usual approach to it.
~Chara

[shaddowez]

Which is fair, and I'll do a reread of their ISO for this game.

As an addendum to my CK read above: I want to go through their posts again, but did remember one thing I didn't like: The basing of reads on other players votes. With no flips or possible associatives, players can be independently scummy and should not be townblocked because you don't like the person voting them. It's even more glaring since it's only one person per instance, not like a wagon of scummy people.

[Infinity 324]

I skimmed shaddow's ISO and there was more depth than I thought. That plus the tone makes me put him at lean town.

[Almost Chara]

It feels off. Like you're trying to appeal to farside instead of throwing up your hands and calling her a VI or OMGUSing her.

That's exactly what it was. Chara is genuinely upset about their "friend" farside trying to force the idea that she can read them well, but doesn't want to upset said friend, so is trying to constrain themselves. If you notice I said Chara requested that I be nice to farside still, and that's why I'm letting Chara handle the situation on their own, but it's more of an emotional struggle/conflict between wanting to be nice to a friend and wanting to call their allegations utter bullocks.

~A50

[Infinity 324]

Ok I went over chara's ISO in watchdogs and its (chara is an it) posts here and chara has a more direction with its questions here and a lot more solid reads. Not 100% confident in this but I think AC is town.

[shaddowez]

Alright, just reviewed the game CK and I were in, and the scum team went down in a flying pile of dog poo, largely in part due to it possibly being my worst game on site as either alignment. I was already at L-3 when CloudKicker replaced into the game, so him claiming he can read me that quickly bothers me.

[CloudKicker]

Cloud probably didn't read pine's posts. Being a replacement is a lot different from saying you are busy/making excuses

I don't know.
Maybe I've seen replacements mainly say I'm busy and need to replace out more often then not.
But what cloud is referring to is not a scum tell.

disagreeing on what is a scumtell isnt a scumtell

[CloudKicker]

Which is fair, and I'll do a reread of their ISO for this game.

As an addendum to my CK read above: I want to go through their posts again, but did remember one thing I didn't like: The basing of reads on other players votes. With no flips or possible associatives, players can be independently scummy and should not be townblocked because you don't like the person voting them. It's even more glaring since it's only one person per instance, not like a wagon of scummy people.

I can do preflips if i want because it works, having multiple "scenarios" in mind is how the game should be played

[CloudKicker]

Alright, just reviewed the game CK and I were in, and the scum team went down in a flying pile of dog poo, largely in part due to it possibly being my worst game on site as either alignment. I was already at L-3 when CloudKicker replaced into the game, so him claiming he can read me that quickly bothers me.

LOL did you really reread that game? i strongarmed your lynch from town, you being L-3 or not Zach and I are the sole reasons got lynched but yes i agree its arrogant to say that i can read anyone from one game but im arrogant so what can i do

[CloudKicker]

I just recently played a game i replaced-in wiht one of my best friend on site and i actually tried to pro-town and it failed miserably and im quite salty, so people saying that they expect i "obvtown" kinda irritates me

[CloudKicker]

I am 100% town, this is my town play like i can link many many games, i am doing my best to project that but if you dont do your half of the work then its on your shoulders not mine

[CloudKicker]

The basing of reads on other players votes. With no flips or possible associatives, players can be independently scummy and should not be townblocked because you don't like the person voting them. It's even more glaring since it's only one person per instance, not like a wagon of scummy people.

Looks like he doesnt like im making correct assumptions about their teams, why can i group people who are scummy per associatives if its valid and it helps me solve the game? VOTE: shadow

[Tea and Biscuits]

I just recently played a game i replaced-in wiht one of my best friend on site and i actually tried to pro-town and it failed miserably and im quite salty, so people saying that they expect i "obvtown" kinda irritates me

I've seen you obvtown in like every game I've seen you in so that's just me being dumb and hoping you'll make things just as easy here... which you did! Thanks.

Anyway, I have like half a case for town!AC so hold your horses guys.
Also,

seconding AC's request for deadline extension due to high number of replacements

, in case that makes any difference to Ari.

-- Postie

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.15

HavingFitz

(3): The Wood Cutters 806, Almost Chara 819, Wraith 905

Wraith

(3): Tea and Biscuits 317, Infinity 324 688, Shaddowez 1083

Almost Chara

(3): Drealmerz 238, Empking 1036, Commander Shepard 1209

Tea and Biscuits

(1): Prism 1091

Shaddowez

(1): CloudKicker 1263

Not Voting

(2): Farside22 979, HavingFitz 1097

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day one ends Wednesday, April 12th at 6pm EST, or in (expired on 2017-04-12 18:00:00)

Mod Notes:

A two day extension has been granted per request and added to the counter. If this still seems insufficient, let me know. A lot can happen in 2 days though!

Also, Happy Scumday Infinity!!!

[Infinity 324]

Thanks!

[CloudKicker]

I just recently played a game i replaced-in wiht one of my best friend on site and i actually tried to pro-town and it failed miserably and im quite salty, so people saying that they expect i "obvtown" kinda irritates me

I've seen you obvtown in like every game I've seen you in so that's just me being dumb and hoping you'll make things just as easy here... which you did! Thanks.

Anyway, I have like half a case for town!AC so hold your horses guys.
Also,

seconding AC's request for deadline extension due to high number of replacements

, in case that makes any difference to Ari.

-- Postie

I didnt know you were an alt,

i also approve the delayed deadline

[The Wood Cutters]

kinda want to flash wagon drealz

[drealmerz7]

psh of course you do

my reads are stellar and I've got you as likely scum

RL has just been kicking my ass so I haven't been able to dedicate focus to this game like it requires. I thought I'd be able to the past couple days, but, haven't been able to. The extension is much appreciated even though normally I'd be not into that at all.

hopefully some real analysis and content in the next day or 2 if I'm able to get a break from the stress

[CloudKicker]

kinda want to flash wagon drealz

can you sign or tell me how to read whos posting

[drealmerz7]

read them as a single slot

that's totally gin though

[The Wood Cutters]

read them as a single slot

that's totally gin though

baby you know it

and I'm actually missing your content so like and it's ME. So there's that.

[The Wood Cutters]

not as in "missing" as in can't find, but like, emotionally. That kinda miss

[CloudKicker]

Hey gin, i am joey_ the cat, you liked when i made a huge ass case on you ?