Mini 1894: DBZ Abridged Mafia - Arrival To Namek (Game Over)

[Albert B. Rampage]

If Ali is scum, it's not with desperado. I have built hypothetical scum pairings.

that doesn't explain why Desperado isn't in that list then.

i asked who Desperado's scumpartner was. you gave me 4 players(including a player who is not Desp's scumpartner according to you) and said the last 2 scum were within that group. looks like a mistake to me. ;>

so, again:

who

do you think Desp's scumpartner is? you seem to have a list of possible

scapegoats

pairs, so this isn't a difficult question.

It could be anyone but Alisae of those I mentioned.

[Not Chara]

so why did i have to beat that answer out of you instead of you giving it in the first place?

and still, why is your best, most confident scumread Desperado, that you will not move your vote from and will lambast all townreads of, not included in that 4 player list of who the last 2 scum are?

[Not Chara]

crowdsourcing the vig/leashing the sk and our doc already being out chief among them

listen when people tell you not to massclaim, please.

[Not Chara]

@Chara: I've concluded that ABR is better left for the night action to sort. He is either Town, Scum or SK. Either Town/Scum the SK will want to take him out. Either Town/SK SCUM will want to take him out. The one thing that remains is if it's a Vig not SK, and then SCUM will take care of ABR if he is not scum.

In sum: ABR is dangerous to have around for long as either alignment. Whatever he is NOT is sure to deal with him, so let's not waste our time on that slot for now.

i'm not leaving ABR scum for a night action, trusting that the threat of his mighty reputation will be enough to get him nightkilled at some point.
i'm sorry Almost, it just isn't happening. if you can't see what i see, and also can't actually explain to me why he's town by play, then you're not going to get me to budge.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nobody thinks NC is scum

NC has a 50% chance of being scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And if NC is scum, chances of scum winning this game looks like 99% the way that you're all discounting him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A50 explain to them the difference between my town and scum game please.

[Tywin Lannister]

We're not lynching alisae or vifam. Desperado is a no brainer lynch. I've played with desperado since his first games on the site. I know how he operates. He's the best lynch, point blank period.

The main two reasons not two are NC's hard defense and Desp's VT claim. If not for NC, Desp would've been strung up already. The question is why is NC hard defending for a player that hasn't themselves? If anyone really did that for me, I'd both be biased into TRing them and also suspicious af that they're buddying me. Regardless, NC has stuck their neck out for Desp, and either that means NC has some insanely strong read skills to basically call a null player confirmed, or NC is scum that is either buddying their partner or a townie they know will be lynched eventually. Idk about the rest, but I buddy a suspect townie all the time as scum, because I look great after they flip and was the only real defender. I do it as town too though, aka Maria.

What exactly in Desp's meta makes you so strongly believe scum? I realize it's hard to pinpoint (it's why I SR Alisae, but it's not easy to give exact details), but it's something. Anything is better than just saying he's scum. I'm not lynching you either, so Ali or Vifam are the alternatives to Desp. Someone's gotta get the rope, but I'd need more of a case on Desp than this.

I'm not lynching ABR for the fear that NC is scum, and while i cant get NC to flip with so many opposing it, i can help prevent a possible scum push on ABR. It's also entirely possible that NC is town with a great SR, but since i dont know either one, the best solution is to go after the third scum. Flips there give more info on Desp/NC/ABR and NKs (scum and vigi/sk) may also resolve the issue.

Point is, Im going the third option, which is to ignore the NC/Desp/ABR fight and lynch an unknown.

[Not Chara]

those are good odds. ;>

Albert, much like Desperado but going utterly unnoticed by Tywin, also enjoys giving reads without any reasoning at all, only doing so after i wrestle them from him.
the reason for this is not conclusive, but prelimary testing suggests ABR is charismatic and Desperado is pissy.

pedit: ooh, scare-tactics now. i like the new direction.
notice how it comes immediately after the Desperado wagon goes belly up. why not beforehand? what if ABR was

nightkilled

? i'd sweep the game.

[Tywin Lannister]

Holy typo. 'Main two reasons to not lynch Desp are'

EBWOP

[Albert B. Rampage]

There is no third option. I will not support you. Sit around with your limp dicks in your hands until lurkers come back to vote.

My lynchpool is Desperado or Not Chara for today. The end.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR is charismatic

I see you

[Tywin Lannister]

And if NC is scum, chances of scum winning this game looks like 99% the way that you're all discounting him.

Me discounting NC? Not at all. I feel like I've been one of the few who even look at them outside of Almost saying: I've played plenty with NC, they look super town yo. I don't have the same opinion or meta experience with NC, and I'm suspicious of them too. Thing is, I don't have to be right or wrong yet. I can ignore you both and go with the scum buddy option, and vigi/SK can take out one of Desp/NC/you and solve that issue in one night.

[Almost50]

A50 explain to them the difference between my town and scum game please.

I'm not an expert in your play, mate, but I'd say you lurk a lot when you're Scum. You hardly said a word in the main thread in FA's abandoned game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

NC I enjoy playing with you. If you are town, you will get to know my playstyle in time, but you're dead wrong here. Looking forward to more games together.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A50 explain to them the difference between my town and scum game please.

I'm not an expert in your play, mate, but I'd say you lurk a lot when you're Scum. You hardly said a word in the main thread in FA's abandoned game.

Would you say I am manipulative as town?

[Albert B. Rampage]

And if NC is scum, chances of scum winning this game looks like 99% the way that you're all discounting him.

Me discounting NC? Not at all. I feel like I've been one of the few who even look at them outside of Almost saying: I've played plenty with NC, they look super town yo. I don't have the same opinion or meta experience with NC, and I'm suspicious of them too. Thing is, I don't have to be right or wrong yet. I can ignore you both and go with the scum buddy option, and vigi/SK can take out one of Desp/NC/you and solve that issue in one night.

If Socrates votes Desp with me, then what will you do? Stand your ground or re-join the fold?

[Not Chara]

NC I enjoy playing with you. If you are town, you will get to know my playstyle in time, but you're dead wrong here. Looking forward to more games together.

oh, i feel the same. i'm having a lot of fun. even if it turns out i'm completely wrong and was tunneling you in ridiculous fashion. but i'm so damn convinced, that i'll shake your hand and congratulate you on fooling everyone through excellent use of your already excellent reputation.

[Tywin Lannister]

And if NC is scum, chances of scum winning this game looks like 99% the way that you're all discounting him.

Me discounting NC? Not at all. I feel like I've been one of the few who even look at them outside of Almost saying: I've played plenty with NC, they look super town yo. I don't have the same opinion or meta experience with NC, and I'm suspicious of them too. Thing is, I don't have to be right or wrong yet. I can ignore you both and go with the scum buddy option, and vigi/SK can take out one of Desp/NC/you and solve that issue in one night.

If Socrates votes Desp with me, then what will you do? Stand your ground or re-join the fold?

I'm just one vote, but I vote where I think the best bet to hit scum is. Ali being overlooked by all of you means I'm on the right track

[Not Chara]

A50 explain to them the difference between my town and scum game please.

I'm not an expert in your play, mate, but I'd say you lurk a lot when you're Scum. You hardly said a word in the main thread in FA's abandoned game.

hm, interesting.

Almost would you keep in mind that ABR has very little content today that wasn't pushed by me? seriously, when you get the time ISO us in day 2 and see what you think.

[Tywin Lannister]

There's zero reasons for the lynch to have to be Desp or ABR, and the fact that you all require it means something. Vigi/SK can solve the issue in one night. Just shoot desperado tonight. He's a claimed VT so who cares? Lynch Ali and hit scum with your vote. Let the NKs take care of the other issues.

[Clumsy Phoenix]

That's assuming that it's a vig that'll listen to you, or an SK that will make that play.

[Not Chara]

Tywin, your blanket statements about the players you view as disagreeing with you are detrimental to actual discussion.
i'm literally tunneling so well that ABR complimented me for the sheer enjoyment of it.

if we've heard from zefiend and Vifam's replacement, and nothing has changed, i'll lynch Alisae.

pedit: yes, exactly. everyone keeps assuming the night actions will continue to help just because we were lucky enough to get a Majiffy shot.
scum have power roles, remember? those still exist.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And if NC is scum, chances of scum winning this game looks like 99% the way that you're all discounting him.

Me discounting NC? Not at all. I feel like I've been one of the few who even look at them outside of Almost saying: I've played plenty with NC, they look super town yo. I don't have the same opinion or meta experience with NC, and I'm suspicious of them too. Thing is, I don't have to be right or wrong yet. I can ignore you both and go with the scum buddy option, and vigi/SK can take out one of Desp/NC/you and solve that issue in one night.

If Socrates votes Desp with me, then what will you do? Stand your ground or re-join the fold?

I'm just one vote, but I vote where I think the best bet to hit scum is. Ali being overlooked by all of you means I'm on the right track

I fundamentally disagree with your last statement and think that you're a fool, easily tricked by his own fat fucking ego. You're no different than the boy who thinks he will get laid because a girl accepted his friend request. You're off your fucking rocker with confirmation bias if you think that you will lynch scum by always inversing what the rest of the town thinks. It's fucking pathetic to watch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Tywin, your blanket statements about the players you view as disagreeing with you are detrimental to actual discussion.
i'm literally tunneling so well that ABR complimented me for the sheer enjoyment of it.

if we've heard from zefiend and Vifam's replacement, and nothing has changed, i'll lynch Alisae.

pedit: yes, exactly. everyone keeps assuming the night actions will continue to help just because we were lucky enough to get a Majiffy shot.
scum have power roles, remember? those still exist.

Bitch please, I wrote the book on tunneling. Literally. Look it up in the wiki.