Mini 1894: DBZ Abridged Mafia - Arrival To Namek (Game Over)

[KuroiXHF]

Even on vacation, I get page top.

Gin, if you want, you can useasily this for a vote count

[Tywin Lannister]

*Desperado.

Alisae when you say you don't care about things, and don't say why, and don't give any of your process, i get nothing from you.

NC, you're saying the exact reasons why I get pinged by Alisae. Unless this is a one off, it's not like him to play this way as town. Alisae is usually pretty aggressive and all-in on the scum hunt. They haven't been this game to the standard I'm used to, to say the least. It could be their RL stuff making them this way, but I can't judge based on that.

[Tywin Lannister]

It conflicts with Nacho's role.
And even if it was real, there's 3 of them going by the picture.
Chances are it's most likely a fakeclaim to get cheep towncred.

This statement alone makes me want to get an Alisae claim at the very least. This is essentially saying they aren't a VT IMO. I believe Desp's claim enough to think this. A few things can be read by the Majiff shot too. One is that Ali isn't the vigi based on their D1 Majiffy read. I'd have been shot if that was true. Anyways, i think this is a scum tell, because if Desp's claim is true, then Alisae probably isn't a VT, and there are only so many PRs we can assume town have. I'm betting Ali isn't one of them.

So if Ali isn't a VT, and they aren't a vigi (or a doc)....

[Alisae]

One is that Ali isn't the vigi based on their D1 Majiffy read. I'd have been shot if that was true.

Tywin. I TR'd you yesterday. So what the fuck is this bullshit?

[Alisae]

I still TR you today mind you.

[Tywin Lannister]

One is that Ali isn't the vigi based on their D1 Majiffy read. I'd have been shot if that was true.

Tywin. I TR'd you yesterday. So what the fuck is this bullshit?

[Alisae]

One is that Ali isn't the vigi based on their D1 Majiffy read. I'd have been shot if that was true.

Tywin. I TR'd you yesterday. So what the fuck is this bullshit?

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Alisae]

I can't stop laughing goddam it why is that so hilarious.

[Desperado]

It conflicts with Nacho's role.
And even if it was real, there's 3 of them going by the picture.
Chances are it's most likely a fakeclaim to get cheep towncred.

You do realize Kuroi actually provides his scumsters with fake claims. Right?

Yeah I know this.
Claiming to be

in

the elite warriors gets towncred because scum wouldn't do that.
Except he's doing it. And he's scum.

I'm saying he came up with that and chose to use that over his fake claim.

that was a typo bro

[Not Chara]

*Desperado.

Alisae when you say you don't care about things, and don't say why, and don't give any of your process, i get nothing from you.

NC, you're saying the exact reasons why I get pinged by Alisae. Unless this is a one off, it's not like him to play this way as town. Alisae is usually pretty aggressive and all-in on the scum hunt. They haven't been this game to the standard I'm used to, to say the least. It could be their RL stuff making them this way, but I can't judge based on that.

right. i do understand the scumread... i still want to wait for zefiend, i'm expecting something because it looked like he had something he wanted to say.
and lycan should be caught up at some point.
i remember liking working with Alisae a lot during Code Geass. he was townreading me and took my input. it's like he doesn't care about the opinions of anyone else in this game.

[Not Chara]

that was a typo bro

Alisae wasn't making a point about the difference between 'in' and 'one of'.
are you scumreading Clumsy's play today?

[Alisae]

I'm just letting ywall know I should probably be checking out today because I've been procrastinating all of my work that I need to make up till the end of Spring Break so...
This is being posted site wide.

[Tywin Lannister]

I kind of just want Alisae to claim and be done with it. By the time they're L1 to do so, deadline may be approaching. This is one of the reasons a mass claim is good. The other is common sense dictating who possibly is a vigi/SK here. Enough have claimed to where everything narrows down pretty drastically to only a few slots. Anyone paying attention can make a pretty educated guess on whose who, and I know scum will be looking.

So honestly, what's the point of holding back now? Socrates can hopefully make a good guess based on analysis of things posted and claims given to figure out who to protect, but then the next night phase, scum will just NK that person too. It's not very difficult to figure this out.

So what's the point of holding back now? We could make the scummiest or most null players claim first. Either way, it narrows down the pool of lynches, and I think most of us already guess that this isn't a heavy town PR game. It may be pretty easy to solve after a mass claim, especially since we forced so many to claim as is. There's not too many left who haven't, and most of us have a pretty narrow scum pool as it is.

[Alisae]

Tsuno, VT.
Was the holder of the 4 star ball.
I was a leader of a village that was slaughtered by Vegeta

[Tywin Lannister]

I mean, the only ones that really haven't claimed are either those with votes, those who are completely null, or those who are TR enough that a claim doesn't matter: me, Almost, NC, ABR, Alisae, Zefiend, Vifam/lycan

We all can assume me, Almost, and Zefiend won't be getting voted today or probably tomorrow either. This leaves lycan, NC, ABR, and Alisae. Alisae may be forced to claim anyways, so the final pool of unknowns is between lycan, NC, ABR. These are the final scum pools, unless scum are hiding in a assumed town slot: me, Almost, Zefiend.

I don't really see a point in holding back any longer while we still have a doc alive. The game should hypothetically be solved within the next couple of day/night phases regardless. Nobody has to claim if they have a dragonball or not either, and scum certainly won't say it regardless. So what's the argument against it at this point? Only the scum pool players seem like they don't like the idea.

So why would we not mass claim?

[Tywin Lannister]

Okay, ninja'd. Alisae has claimed....

So lycan/NC/ABR are the pool of assumed scum that's left. Not everyone can claim VT or we know there's an SK. We lynch one suspect, shoot another, and still have one more shot left tomorrow night. If that doesn't end the game, then we can safely assume based on flips if there's an SK or another scum, and we can look at the assumed town slots. Lylo is still pretty far away unless scum get all the dragon balls, and we can look at those who've hammered (Clumsy) to see who may have them.

[Tywin Lannister]

I wanna see what others think of Alisae's claim, but I'm open to lynching clumsy or lycan at this point. Probably lycan. He should be caught up now, so there's no reason to really dismiss the slot anymore.

[Tywin Lannister]

Those in favor of mass claim say Aye.

Really, this is probably everyone that has claimed and those that don't care (me/Almost). Idk what Zefiend thinks of it, but if the final naysayers are NC/ABR/lycan, then idk why we shouldn't force it. Protecting the vigi/SK at this point is pointless with so many claims already in the open. Scum aren't stupid and would only make at most, one wrong guess. It's a difference between possibly one night phase, compared to forcing a claim, a guaranteed doc protection on vigi (if not SK), and a scum choice of either wasting a night on Socrates, or wasting multiple nights taking out unprotected VTs and leaving a vigi alone to NK them. Scum will be between a rock and a hard place.

So yeah, mass claim Aye
Everyone else that claimed already probably say Aye.
So Almost/Zefiend/NC/ABR/lycan what say you?

The only REAL reason not to before was to protect a doc claim and then protect a vigi claim. Doc already claimed and vigi/SK can be easily deduced from a few specific slots. Scum know who they are, so that narrows it down to only a couple at best. Vigi is pretty much already known by scum. Only players that don't fully know are town, and that claim removes a mislynch possibility.

[Almost50]

As I said, anyone who has been paying attention would deduce I'm Super Kami Guru, and I hereby command Nail to come scratch my nose for me.. from the inside, you boon!

[Almost50]

I'm not claiming my role, but it's obviously NOT that of the vig.

[Not Chara]

i'm not claiming. that i keep opposing it despite Tywin being correct from his point of view should tell you all something.

[Almost50]

It does, but it's not "crystal clear". I'll trust your judgement though.

[Desperado]

that was a typo bro

Alisae wasn't making a point about the difference between 'in' and 'one of'.
are you scumreading Clumsy's play today?

looked like he was to me given the emphasis but ok

yes. there were also a few things d1 I didn't like

[Not Chara]

what don't you like about today from Clumsy?

[Desperado]

Agreed with NC, mass claim on Day 2 when we're winning is idiotic and scum-driven.

this is just correct, yes.

what don't you like about today from Clumsy?

the way they are presuming my lynch has been a foregone conclusion. if Ali is town they are probably scum. if somehow ali and Abe are both town clumsy is definitely scum