Mini 1894: DBZ Abridged Mafia - Arrival To Namek (Game Over)

[Alisae]

I really should be going back to work, but Socrates I already claimed.
Also wanting to hammer Maria seems dragon ball motivated, their ABR case really is just a gut feeling with nothing to base it off of. It's kinda of a reach tbh. tbh I probably got that feeling from their early game posts and them wanting hammers.

[Almost50]

I also revealed receiving the ball because I wanted people to know that ClumsyPheonix did that. What do YOU make of him doing that?

Town who trusted you or scum p with you (in which case this may or may not be true to begin with). There's no 3rd way about it. Scum will not pass a ball to Town and Town would not lie about receiving a ball. Since we all chose to trust you then you should be both Town.

[Not Chara]

Tywin, it's been two days since lycan said it would catch up on an 83-page game. zefiend has also not caught up yet, we're waiting on both and i doubt both are scum.
why don't you want to lynch Alisae?

[Not Chara]

i do appreciate Socrates catching up.
why did my ISO give a confident townread?

Alisae: wanting to hammer Maria

was

dragonball motivated. why no response to my comments about Code Geass or your play this game?

[Desperado]

I also revealed receiving the ball because I wanted people to know that ClumsyPheonix did that. What do YOU make of him doing that?

Town who trusted you or scum p with you (in which case this may or may not be true to begin with). There's no 3rd way about it. Scum will not pass a ball to Town and Town would not lie about receiving a ball. Since we all chose to trust you then you should be both Town.

scum passed orbs in a setup very similar to this in mystic mafia

[Almost50]

I'm to lazy to go look up a game in search. A link would be good, or -maybe- a short explanation of the orbs function in the setup.

[Desperado]

viewtopic.php?p=8819055#p8819055

kagami and infinity both passed orbs. infinity likely because he knew he would be lynched soon but kagami was pure towncred

[Desperado]

pretty much the same as the balls as far as I can tell. they started shit between town and scum, could be passed freely at night, and whoever assembled all of them would wield ~great power~

[Desperado]

they started split between town and scum*

[Almost50]

OK. Gotcha. Thanks.

[Clumsy Phoenix]

Work has utterly been destroying me lately. I'll be on either tomorrow or tonight after my doubleshift with something substantial. Site wide heads up.

-Clumsy

[Tywin Lannister]

Tywin, it's been two days since lycan said it would catch up on an 83-page game. zefiend has also not caught up yet, we're waiting on both and i doubt both are scum.
why don't you want to lynch Alisae?

They claimed and the last real lurker besides Zefiend is lycan. I see no reason not to vote the Vifam/lycan slot. It doesn't solve the third or more scum player(s), but it's at least one of them if my suspicions are true. Nobody's lynching them before they post, but at some point, it starts getting scummy over being NAI.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Zefiend has been prodded.

ALSO THIS WAS ANNOUNCED AS SOON AS I SENT THE PROD. IM GETTING GOOD AT THIS!

[Not Chara]

Tywin, it's been two days since lycan said it would catch up on an 83-page game. zefiend has also not caught up yet, we're waiting on both and i doubt both are scum.
why don't you want to lynch Alisae?

They claimed and the last real lurker besides Zefiend is lycan. I see no reason not to vote the Vifam/lycan slot. It doesn't solve the third or more scum player(s), but it's at least one of them if my suspicions are true. Nobody's lynching them before they post, but at some point, it starts getting scummy over being NAI.

so instead of lynching your scumread, your solution is to force a massclaim by going after players who haven't?
i have to go. be back tonight.

[Alisae]

NC leave Tywin alone

[Alisae]

I'm not going to answer why till mafia are dead.

[KuroiXHF]

You even updated the op too. I was right to trust you.

[Tywin Lannister]

I'm not going to answer why till mafia are dead.

If you're suggesting I'm an SK, then I'lol just say you're wrong, but after all scum are dead, my lynch won't matter anyways.

And NC: I'm going with the safe bet. Idk whose scum, but I have said multiple times whose in my lynch pool. IMO, it's a process of elimination. What do you care if lycan gets lynched or not? If he's scum, that's good for us. Only his buddies would care. I'm unsure about you too, but I'm going off of your hints and current play to guess. If proven otherwise, then you'll be lynched and that's that, but til then, I have to go with the most likely scum. You not wanting to claim after the things you've said seems pointless to me, and no doubt scum think the same if you are town, but that's your choice. Lycan is a lurker just like Vifam was, and we're at the stage where lurker scum need the rope. It's that simple.

[Tywin Lannister]

I have reasons to be suspicious of both clumsy and Alisae, but idk which one is scum. I doubt both are. Same goes for NC/ABR. I'm staying with my third party option and let the others resolve themselves in time. It's not mylo yet.

[Socrates]

i do appreciate Socrates catching up.
why did my ISO give a confident townread?

Alisae: wanting to hammer Maria

was

dragonball motivated. why no response to my comments about Code Geass or your play this game?

There's no need for me to explain. I WILL be heavily scrutinizing your play day 3, however.

Care to respond to my other posts pointed your way? They are still relevant.

I'm giving you my dragon ball tonight. If it doesn't arrive, then Imperium's question about whether ball passing can be roleblocked can be considered officially answered.

Capiche?

[Socrates]

I also revealed receiving the ball because I wanted people to know that ClumsyPheonix did that. What do YOU make of him doing that?

Town who trusted you or scum p with you (in which case this may or may not be true to begin with). There's no 3rd way about it. Scum will not pass a ball to Town and Town would not lie about receiving a ball. Since we all chose to trust you then you should be both Town.

This is a dangerously simplistic viewpoint on how the scumteam can use the dragonballs as tools to manipulate the town. I am worried about whether this is because you haven't thought heavily about it or because you HAVE thought heavily about it.

Also, if you are town, your vulnerability to trustfalls is something I will backpocket for if I ever play scum against you in the future.

I asked you specifically because it runs counter to the strategy you endorsed of every townie holding onto ONE dragonball. I'm surprised you didn't raise an eyebrow when I believe you did at Alisae.

[Socrates]

Socrates: I take the NC wording as what we all assume it means, which basically invalidates any reason to not massclaim anyways, but whatever. If they later claim VT, I'm lynching them over it. Plain and simple. No VR refuses to claim when the town benefits look drastically to out favor scum, and also because anyone who reads the thread can already make educated guesses at things. It's pretty obvious who scum will NK with or without a roleblocker. If someone else flips what NC is assumed to be, then NC is fucked. I will make sure of that.

So really, it remains ABR/Lycan/Desp/Clumsy/Alisae, with Clumsy/Lycan my current preference.

There's no reason lycan hasn't caught up yet after claiming they would, and further lurking only adds to my suspicions.

Good.

As for Lycan, the dreaded

Double Flake

on a non-pressured slot was a surprisingly accurate scumtell in my personal experience*. Coinflip at worst.

(*experience that is 6 years out of date, mind you)

I can get behind a Lycan lynch, or at least a wagon.

But my heart is currently looking Desperado's way. His reactions to my massclaim push are, in my eyes, the scummiest posts in this entire game. Can you see why?

[Socrates]

Simplest scumteam: Desperado/Lycan

Most elaborate scumteam: ABR/Clumsy

[Almost50]

I asked you specifically because it runs counter to the strategy you endorsed of every townie holding onto ONE dragonball. I'm surprised you didn't raise an eyebrow when I believe you did at Alisae.

There's a slight difference there: Alisae's "target" was NK'd so I have nothing but his own word for it. Clumsy is still alive and so are you, so that makes two of you that confirm the ball has been passed. I still believe it was sub-optimal play, but -at least- we still know where the ball is if you're telling the truth.

[Not Chara]

There's no need for me to explain. I WILL be heavily scrutinizing your play day 3, however.

Care to respond to my other posts pointed your way? They are still relevant.

I'm giving you my dragon ball tonight. If it doesn't arrive, then Imperium's question about whether ball passing can be roleblocked can be considered officially answered.

Capiche?

sorry, could you quote the posts? i can't remember any pending questions but i can go look.

and yes, i understand, believe me. with that in mind i'd actually recommend giving the ball to someone else, like Tywin.